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sub panel in seperate structure #31147
11/11/03 09:22 PM
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im installing a 100 amp sub in poll barn ,im using PVC and pulling wires .. do i need to pull a ground wire with my feeder conductors ,there will be 2 wires and a nuetral in pipe ,i know i have to drive an additional ground rod at the other building

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Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31148
11/11/03 09:31 PM
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250.32 allows you to use the grounded conductor of the feeder circuit to attach to the grounding electrode of the seperate structure, if you do not pull an equipment grounding conductor.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31149
11/11/03 09:32 PM
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Will there be any other conductive paths to the barn? (ie phone line or metalic water pipe etc...)

If so yes, and you would isolate the neutral from the EGC and the ground rod (GEC)connections.

Even if you are not going to have any other conductive paths right now, it is still the best way to do this. (plan for the future)

Roger

Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31150
11/11/03 09:36 PM
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I should have also pointed to 250.32 as Ryan did.

Specificaly 250.32(B)

Roger

Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31151
11/11/03 09:39 PM
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so i should add the EGC
im running 1/0 copper what size should the EGC be ??

Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31152
11/11/03 09:41 PM
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did i say thank you for the fast reply ??

Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31153
11/11/03 09:45 PM
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Your welcome.

If you decide to use an equipment ground, you cannot use the nuetral for attachment to the grounding electrode.

If you do not pull an equipment ground you may use the nuetral for attachment to the grounding elctrode.

Dealer's choice!


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31154
11/11/03 09:48 PM
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I'm sorry i missed half of your question. REmember that EGC's are driven by the size of the breaker, not the size of the conductor. 250.122 tells me that #8 is fine.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31155
11/11/03 09:51 PM
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thanks guys

Re: sub panel in seperate structure #31156
11/11/03 10:03 PM
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SCS, Welcome to the forum.

I personaly would install the EGC.

Roger

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