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Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30895
11/02/03 12:44 PM
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AC  Offline OP
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Does anyone have any favorite tricks for installing outlet and switch boxes in walls destined to be covered in two layers of sheet rock?

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Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30896
11/02/03 01:18 PM
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iwire  Offline
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We use 4" sq box with a plaster ring.

2 layers of 5/8" sheet rock need a 1 1/4" raised ring


Bob Badger
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Massachusetts
Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30897
11/02/03 08:25 PM
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Speedy Petey  Offline
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Upstate, NY
Wood framing or metal? RX or BX/MC?

Nail on boxes can be a pain as the nail bosses can get in the way of the first layer of rock.
We do alot of log homes. In interiors we find a problem even with 3/4" T&G wood where the carpenters have to notch the back side of the boards because of the boxes.

1900 boxes with plaster rings is a no brainer.


Speedy Petey

"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -Albert Einstein
Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30898
11/02/03 10:57 PM
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AC,

I consider these boxes to be one of the best new products I've seen recently. I'd recommend them for any place where you're not sure what the final wall thickness will end up too. They're great for Kitchens and Bathrooms that might get a backsplash, or Tile, or whatever, very easy to adjust.

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made by Carlon
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Bill

Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30899
11/03/03 04:40 AM
11/03/03 04:40 AM
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sparky  Offline
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kudos on the carlon's Bill [Linked Image]

i carry arlington extenders, for those last minute tile jobs, or similar 11th hr depth changes...
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Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30900
11/03/03 07:46 AM
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Fullerton, CA USA
As an addenda to Sparky's post, the Arlington extensions as pictured are, to my knowledge, the only ones that are currently UL approved.
They are made by other companies, but don't have the UL.
Bill, very neat box!!...S

Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30901
11/03/03 09:25 AM
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Bill Addiss  Offline
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I love these boxes, and Blue is my favorite color. They seem pretty sturdy too.

Here's a 2 gang notice the clamp inside that could be used for larger gauge cables.

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Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30902
11/03/03 07:21 PM
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Stoney Creek, ON, Canada
I don't have any problem using 1-1/2 inch 6/32 screws on back splashes and such.

Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30903
11/03/03 07:38 PM
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Bill Addiss  Offline
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I don't have any problem using 1-1/2 inch 6/32 screws on back splashes and such.
Sandro,

Having boxes set back that far in the wall isn't against your Canadian Electrical Code?

Bill

Re: Setting boxes for double sheet rock #30904
11/03/03 08:43 PM
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Joey D  Offline
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Arlington MA U.S.
I use the adjustables Bill posted in every kitchen and bathroom. The only bad part is they only come in 1 and 2 gang.

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