ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
twh 10
Admin 4
Recent Posts
Windows 10, who's upgraded?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 11:02 AM
How do you find a good employee?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:58 AM
Recall notice: Bosch Solar panels
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:53 AM
Correct rotation, wrong sequence
by Potseal. 05/27/17 12:15 AM
Dryer, Range grounding from "Main" panel
by sparkync. 05/25/17 05:49 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
236,955 Are you busy
171,966 Re: Forum
164,843 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 73 guests, and 9 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#27583 - 07/22/03 02:25 PM Narrow minds  
rowdyrudy  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 169
Mascoutah, IL USA
In reviewing transcripts of several IAEI meetings, local and national, as part of the preliminaries to a possible civil trial I read a comment that really tells the story of closed minds. The comment was “I don’t care if it’s right or wrong, if it’s in the book that’s the way it is.” The gent who uttered this has been presenting seminars (in the southeast) for several years. I shouldn’t be surprised at this as that seems to be the common thread at most seminars, forget common sense, put forth your own interpretation of the code, and be unbending on the subject. I feel that this type of attitude has actually weakened code enforcement in many areas. There are more and more political subdivisions that are modifying the NEC to a great extent due to arbitrary rules that are beyond comprehension by local authorities. What is acceptable in one area may be prohibited in an adjacent county. The NEC needs to be uniformly adopted without local modifications. It would make life much simpler for EC’s who work in various jurisdictions.

Rowdy


Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#27584 - 07/22/03 02:33 PM Re: Narrow minds  
Happi_Man  Offline
Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 206
Columbus, Ohio - USA
Even then you have to deal with how the inspector interprets the code as opposed to your interpretation. That's what gets me.

There is a local inspector here that will tag you on something really obscure and then pass off a blatant violation somewhere else. And if he can't find anything to tag you on he'll spend the whole day there until he can find the smallest little thing.
Some of these guys think they are going to save the world...


#27585 - 07/22/03 06:40 PM Re: Narrow minds  
pauluk  Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
I guess the obvious response is "If the code is perfect, why does it need a revised edition every three years?" The same could be said of any of the codes we use elsewhere in the world.

Although official inspections for residential wiring don't exist here, I understand fully the point about some people being extremely picky about minor, really unimportant things, while often ignoring something much more serious.


#27586 - 07/22/03 06:58 PM Re: Narrow minds  
sparky  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,308
I do love those whom pose the truth such as youself Rowdy.

I'm really put off by 'regulating' agencies that create codes, laws, or any such standards without acknowledging enforcement.

'Matter of fact, if anyone in this forum can show me where the IAEI has actually lobbied for inspectors, state NEC adoption, or any such credible gain and i shall send in my $90 renewal.

Otherwise, the orginization is fairly useless to those of us 'howling in the wilderness'


#27587 - 07/22/03 07:38 PM Re: Narrow minds  
Roger  Offline
Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,716
N.C.
Frustrating when you have to watch a peer shame you isn't it.

With that said, I say thank you Rowdy.

Roger



Member Spotlight
JoeKP
JoeKP
Berkley, MA
Posts: 144
Joined: March 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.015s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.7684 MB (Peak: 0.9075 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-05-29 02:06:09 UTC