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#210979 - 08/29/13 07:23 PM AFCI's  
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I've got a permit on a detached RV garage right next to the house it belongs to, ( had to run it all in conduit). The house already has been inspected and has power. While checking on my job, I thought I would just look at the electrical panel for the house, since it is right next to the garage I will be working on. I noticed that there were no AFCI's on Bathroom recepts., microwave recept., wash machine recept., kitchen lights, garage outlets, and dishwasher and disposal multiwire circuit. It's been a while since I've wired a new house, but I was thinking that everything except maybe the baths and kitchen had to have AFCI's. Obviously I was wrong. Don't have my new code with me right now. I sort of see all the above being ok, since they are GFI protected after the first outlet, except "kitchen lights". Don't understand that one. The only one's that did have AFCI's were, Master bedroom outlets, Bedroom outlets, and living room . Any comments?? Think the inspector just missed it?


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#210981 - 08/29/13 07:58 PM Re: AFCI's [Re: sparkync]  
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We have only been required to ARc protected bedrooms and smoke detectors. Nothing else ...yet.


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#210984 - 08/29/13 10:46 PM Re: AFCI's [Re: sparkync]  
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sparkync:
This is from the 2011 NEC:

210.12 Arc-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection.
(A) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single phase, 15- and
20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in
dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms,
parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation
rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall
be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter,
combination-type, installed to provide protection of the
branch circuit.

Note that 'kitchen' is not mentioned, so the kitchen lights are not mandatory for AFCI protection.

What NEC is in effect in your area?


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#210985 - 08/29/13 11:03 PM Re: AFCI's [Re: sparkync]  
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We are on 2011. Our inspectors are pretty lenient on what you need to have arc faults on. I usually end up with 7-9 breakers for a whole house on the general use recepts. I have not been failed for not having something on arc faults.



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