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#199386 - 02/24/11 03:47 AM Box of Wire... Remember these?  
Scott35  Offline

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Anaheim, CA. USA
So, how many remember "Boxes Of Wire", when TW was commonly installed, and how the Wire would catch on the small pre-sliced Finger Hole Opening during a Pull?

Found this guy hiding in the back of my Father's Garage, and even though I was most likely still in Elementary School, I did many Weekend and Summer Day Pulls with my Father, and these Boxes of TW Wire were very common.

Wanted to share some newly found Nostalgia.

-- Scott

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#199389 - 02/24/11 05:06 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
Trumpy  Offline

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,211
SI,New Zealand
Good find Scott!,
I suppose you could say we've come full circle then, considering that Cat5 and 6 wire comes in a box these days.
Oh and yeah, I reckon they have a guy at the factory whose sole occupation is to ensure that there are at least 5 tangle points in every box.
I have never had a box of that stuff that has not tangled inside.

Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

#199391 - 02/24/11 06:00 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
RODALCO  Offline
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Posts: 854
Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
We had similar looking boxes with 100 meter coils of 1.5 and 2.5 mm˛ solid wire in The Netherlands when I did my apprenteship in the late 70's.

Pull the wires out from the circle in the middle and draw them into the conduit pipes. Often you had 3 or 4 boxes going at the same time with brown, light blue, yellow-green and black wires to be pulled in at the same time.

The product of rotation, excitation and flux produces electricty.

#199394 - 02/24/11 10:27 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
HotLine1  Offline

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,809
Brick, NJ USA
Another stroll down memory lane, remembering the nightmares. A EC I worked for way back when used to love the 'box'! 12 solid!! He also was not liking stranded, and those 'new' spools?? I remember the boxes from Carrol Cable, wet, soggy, & moldy, but we didn't know any better back then.


#199397 - 02/24/11 01:45 PM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
Texas_Ranger  Offline
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,393
Vienna, Austria
Here you still get those boxes! DIY store rebrands usually come wrapped in plastic (shrinkwrap) instead of in a box. The only difference is the position of the finger hole, it's usually in the middle of the opening section, that reduces the snags considerably. The shrinkwrap packs are ok as long as you use them up quickly, otherwise they tend to fall apart.

My personal record with conduit singles was 8 I think... I ran wiring for a mixed lighting/receptacle circuit and had no less than two 3-ways. In that place I used all colors I could find - black, blue, yellow/green, brown, grey, orange and purple. It was retrofit work, otherwise I'd have used two parallel conduit runs.

#199401 - 02/24/11 07:48 PM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
gfretwell  Offline

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Posts: 9,069
My experience has been, as long as you are pulling the wire out of a Cat 5 box it keeps coming but if you throw in in the back of the truck and bounce it around a little, the next time you have a bird's nest in there. No matter what, the last 100 feet is coming out in a ball.
I am experimenting with a box as we speak. It has been sitting undisturbed on a shelf in my shed and I just spool out what I need as I need it. So far so good about half way in. I am pulling everything in raceways so getting the length right is pretty easy. I got in the habit of writing the length of the raceway on a label when I install it. (and it is fresh in my mind)

Greg Fretwell

#199404 - 02/25/11 12:08 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
EV607797  Offline
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
I remember those flat boxes of TW/THW very well, in fact I cut my teeth in the biz using those. Oh boy were we screwed if it was raining and we had an outdoor pull! Because of the coil effect from pulling from the center, we soon started pulling the coil out of the box and just rolled it out, hand-over-hand, especially on long pulls. The extra time spent doing this avoided the never-ending tangles at the feed end.

Back in the late 70's, THHN was prohibitively-expensive since it was generally only used for gas station wiring. Once I figured out that we could pull nine wires in a 1/2" conduit, I soon realized that the cost issue was minimal. Shortly after this, I found that it took off in popularity and TW/THW pretty much went out to pasture. I just wish that I could have seen the look of glee on my face when I found out that we could pull four #6's in a 3/4" pipe. The rest is history.

Does anybody remember the smell of a fresh box of TW?


"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."

#199405 - 02/25/11 12:19 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: Scott35]  
dougwells  Offline

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,137
kamloops BC Canada
We used to get romex packaged like that

#199407 - 02/25/11 02:11 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: dougwells]  
noderaser  Offline
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 404
Portland, Oregon, United State...
Originally Posted by dougwells
We used to get romex packaged like that

I still see it in neighborhood hardware stores, usually boxes of 50 or 100 feet. The 250/500' spools come in the banded, shrink-wrapped packaging.

#199408 - 02/25/11 03:28 AM Re: Box of Wire... Remember these? [Re: noderaser]  
NORCAL  Offline
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 869
Originally Posted by noderaser
Originally Posted by dougwells
We used to get romex packaged like that

I still see it in neighborhood hardware stores, usually boxes of 50 or 100 feet.

With a price that almost matches the cost of a 250' roll. eek

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