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Ground Rods in Winter #19852
01/04/03 04:22 PM
01/04/03 04:22 PM
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rowd  Offline OP
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Park Forest, Illinois, USA
I've got four new service upgrades to do in the next two weeks. The ground is frozen. Any good ideas on driving the ground rod past the freeze point?

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Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19853
01/04/03 04:54 PM
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JuddsAirco  Offline
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KY, USA
You better be either a really good shot with a sledge hammer or use a simple fence post driver.


The lesson is in the struggle, not the victory.
Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19854
01/04/03 05:04 PM
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harold endean  Offline
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Boonton, NJ
When I was in business, I had an electric demolition hammer to drive the ground rods into the soil. If the ground was frozen, we would use a hammer drill to get through the frost line, then drive the rod down. Here in northern NJ the frost can get as deep as 36". We had some long hammer drill bits. [Linked Image]

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19855
01/04/03 05:13 PM
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lighthouse  Offline
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rowd...i use my hilti drill to install all my ground rods.(no more sledge hammer.)

or you try to a drill a pilot hole and dump some antifreeze down the hole.

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19856
01/04/03 06:22 PM
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sparky  Online Content
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well the anti-F's a new on on me lighthouse.....

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19857
01/04/03 06:28 PM
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gramps  Offline
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everybody knows this is the best time of year for driving ground rods! the frozen ground is good for keeping the rods from going in TOO FAR!...lol!.... [Linked Image]

seriously, we have a driving attachment for our hilti that works pretty good....also, i've used an auger bit and extension before, then pour a little antifreeze, or even warm "water", down the hole............... [Linked Image]

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19858
01/04/03 06:55 PM
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Roger  Offline
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To all that use their roto hammers or demolition hammers to drive ground rods, do like gramps says and use an attachment. Driving the rod directly in your tool may not ever cause a problem, but, when it does, (I know from experience) it cost to repair the head.

Roger

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19859
01/04/03 11:37 PM
01/04/03 11:37 PM
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lighthouse, mate,welcome to ECN.
What a huge idea that is, best I've heard yet,what sort of tip do you use for this?.
How prevalent is the Hilti in the US?, they are pretty big over here(NZ), for the serious contractors, we have Core-bits and all sorts of other attachments, but none to drive an Earth Rod.
Was the Hilti, an American invention?, just curious?, one thing I must say I'm glad that someone invented it.
It makes life so easy. [Linked Image]

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19860
01/05/03 12:06 AM
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golf junkie  Offline
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York, NE
"Any good ideas on driving the ground rod past the freeze point?"

Have your apprentice drive them!

GJ

Re: Ground Rods in Winter #19861
01/05/03 01:08 AM
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