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what is ground? #198400
01/20/11 07:44 PM
01/20/11 07:44 PM
Niko  Offline OP
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Is body of water considered ground?

The floating dwelling units have to ground their system. How about a dwelling unit that is built on a permanently constructed deck that is on the body of water?

How is grounding achieved? confused



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Re: what is ground? [Re: Niko] #198401
01/20/11 08:26 PM
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Wave mechanics?


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Re: what is ground? [Re: Alan Belson] #198402
01/20/11 08:36 PM
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The ocean would be considered the perfect ground plane.

The actual electrode would have to be non-corrosive in salt water.

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Re: what is ground? [Re: Niko] #198403
01/20/11 09:04 PM
01/20/11 09:04 PM
Niko  Offline OP
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How do you attach to the water? How do you install an electrode?

On the comical side, this would be a true floating ground. laugh


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Re: what is ground? [Re: Niko] #198404
01/20/11 10:22 PM
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Does the NEC even apply?

Re: what is ground? [Re: LarryC] #198406
01/20/11 10:31 PM
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FRom the comment of a 'dwelling unit built on a permanent deck, I would say...yes.

I gave the OP a lot of thought, as to a excersize in humor, or a serious question....& I'm still not sure.



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Re: what is ground? [Re: HotLine1] #198410
01/21/11 12:15 AM
01/21/11 12:15 AM
Niko  Offline OP
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Originally Posted by HotLine1

I gave the OP a lot of thought, as to a excersize in humor, or a serious question....& I'm still not sure.


It is a serious/curious question.

Originally Posted by HotLine1
FRom the comment of a 'dwelling unit built on a permanent deck, I would say...yes.


How would one install a grounding electrode?


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Re: what is ground? [Re: Niko] #198412
01/21/11 01:15 AM
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Stainless steel pontoons? confused laugh laugh

Re: what is ground? [Re: PAteenlectrician] #198413
01/21/11 04:50 AM
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I have dealt with a few floating facilities. Answer me this, is the house affixed to the shore and is hired wired from the shore? If so then the grounding is achieved at the main on shore. See NEC 553 for more details.

If it's mobile, then it falls under different rules. NEC may or may not apply. I might be able to assist you with that


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Re: what is ground? [Re: sparkyinak] #198416
01/21/11 06:26 AM
01/21/11 06:26 AM
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Think about the way Ships, Aircraft, or even a Space Station is "Grounded".

What would be referred to as "Ground" in these cases.
(hint: think "Automobile's Ground")

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