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#197981 - 01/05/11 05:51 PM Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!?  
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Hello

I recently rented a small appartment and I am a bit shocked by the discovery that there is a big cellphone tower only 75meters away from the appartment, with closest antennas 25meter above the ground. My appartment is on the ground floor!

I live in belgium so I guess that compared with other countries, the towers are quite low in radiation.

I know scientific studies say that cell towers are safe,
but if they are safe... why then are so many people screaming out how:
"since the mast was put close to their homes":
- many people in the street developed cancer
- many people in the street started getting headaches and CFS

in higher numbers than are considered normal?

if the towers are safe, why have so many doctors signed the "Freiburger Appeal"?

and last but not least,
how does cellphone tower radiation compare with the radiation that comes from Wifi Routers, and so on?

Is high frequency (cell tower) not more dangerous than low frequency (60hz - household)?

What about the Pulsing? Or other "undiscovered dangers" that could explain all the people who claim to have bad experience with cell towers?

Last edited by radiationman; 01/05/11 06:06 PM.

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#197982 - 01/05/11 06:12 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: radiationman]  
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There is no established science on the topic; even the studies that assert there is a problem don't really say that; they just say 'we don't know and need to study it more!'

You're just going to have to grow up, and stop listening to all those ignorant ninnies who delight in scaring the uninformed.


#197983 - 01/05/11 06:35 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: renosteinke]  
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The radiation level from the cell tower is much less than that you get when you are talking on your own cellphone. Also the cell tower antennas aim most of their radiation towards the horizon. Some radiation is spilled to down below, but it is much less than that from your own cellphone.


#197984 - 01/05/11 07:23 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: wa2ise]  
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Radiationman:

Welcome to ECN Forums!!

I agree with the above comments, there is no proven documentation of any cell tower issues with radiation.

Years back, I seem to remember people complaining about microwave ovens.



John

#197986 - 01/05/11 07:54 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: wa2ise]  
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Originally Posted by wa2ise
The radiation level from the cell tower is much less than that you get when you are talking on your own cellphone. Also the cell tower antennas aim most of their radiation towards the horizon. Some radiation is spilled to down below, but it is much less than that from your own cellphone.

how much less?

because a cellphone causes a lot radiation.
remember a tower is 24/7.

if it's only 20 times less, but still 24/7 that is still A LOT of radiation...


#197987 - 01/05/11 09:03 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: radiationman]  
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can you make an estimation?

a while back i read somewhere that wifi @ 5 meter would be 0,15V/m,
that is something i could live with.

but if a Cell Tower would radiate the whole appartment at for example 2,15V/m,
then i would find that a bit much.

what do you think?


answers are very much appreciated!
they mean a lot to me.


#197988 - 01/05/11 10:11 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: radiationman]  
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i might be mildly electrosensitive and i have heart arrhythmia,
for this reason i try to limit my exposure.

i am not planning to move out of the city into the jungle though,
so all i would really love to know is if radiation from the tower i described is higher, lower or about equal than say a wifi station at close distance?

aditionally, the fact i live so close to that tower,
and I live at ground floor...

and the antennas are 25m high and have angles at between 5 and 10,
doesn't that mean that i will have less radiation from that tower than if i would live 200 meters away from it?

it's not my intention to be a nuisance here...
if you could answer the two questions in THIS POST right here I would be very happy.

Thank you.

Last edited by radiationman; 01/05/11 10:16 PM.

#197989 - 01/06/11 01:52 AM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: radiationman]  
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This sort of thing is the result of the mass hysteria whipped up by the news media and other groups that fail to understand the theory behind radio waves, sometimes conveniently.

To merely call the EM field that is transmitted from an antenna such as that used on a cell-phone tower "radiation" is missing the point.
It is not the same sort of thing as the radiation that comes from uranium or other radioactive isotopes.

References have also been made to microwave ovens, in the debate about cell-towers, however you have to remember that a microwave oven uses power levels in the hundreds of watts, not the micro-watt levels associated with cell-towers.

Radio waves are all around us and have been since Marconi started his experiments in 1895.

Now, the reason these cell antennas are installed so high, is not because of the perceived health risk to people, it is because they use such low powered transmitters and coupled with the fact that they use extremely high frequencies, they need to be high to transmit signals that are by nature line of sight.



#197992 - 01/06/11 11:49 AM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: radiationman]  
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Originally Posted by radiationman
can you make an estimation?

a while back i read somewhere that wifi @ 5 meter would be 0,15V/m, that is something i could live with.

but if a Cell Tower would radiate the whole appartment at for example 2,15V/m, then i would find that a bit much.

what do you think?


answers are very much appreciated!
they mean a lot to me.


You are putting out numbers. Does that mean you have a means of measuring them? If so, why don't you measure them yourself?

Trumpy,

As far as "radiation", there are several types of radiation and different types have different affects. Ionizing radiation from Uranium and the like can spit out Alpha particles, Beta and Gamma radiation and Neutrons. Each one of these _can_ cause damage but _won't necessarily_ cause damage. Alot of it depends on where it hits your body, how much radiation is present, how much energy the specific type of radiation has at the time of collision, and what that specific cell of your body is doing at the time of collision.

Our bodies are getting hit with ionizing radiation all of the time. You are receiving it from the SUN, other stars, the rocks around you, the bananas you eat, the cigars and cigarettes people smoke, the person sleeping next to you, the steel in you car, medical x-rays, etc. IT'S EVERYWHERE!

Non-ionizing radiation comes from all electrical and magnetic fields. Kind of hard to avoid them on our planet. Not to mention Visible and non-visible light.

radiationman,

Just realize that the universe is out to kill you and eventually it will succeed. grin

Go for the ride and enjoy it as long as you can.

Larry C


#197996 - 01/06/11 02:53 PM Re: Radiation from cellphone tower - Urgent question!? [Re: LarryC]  
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The FCC has online a paper that addresses this topic.
FCC paper on RF exposure Page 20 talks about cell towers. The FCC has rules about RF exposure levels to the public, along with otehr rules about radio spectrum use.


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