ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Trumpy 3
dsk 3
Recent Posts
Feed to spa panel
by HotLine1. 06/25/17 05:28 PM
Weatherhead, POA, height?
by HotLine1. 06/24/17 02:37 PM
Windows 7 update problem
by ampherder. 06/21/17 07:01 AM
Norwegian power?
by dsk. 06/19/17 03:40 PM
Anyone ever take a Furnas A14D drum sw apart?
by gfretwell. 06/17/17 08:14 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
238,238 Are you busy
173,456 Re: Forum
166,261 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
1 registered members (annemarie1), 63 guests, and 9 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#193252 - 03/24/10 12:56 AM landscape lights  
schenimann  Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 193
Western North Carolina
I picked up some work at a 2600 acre mountain developement here in western North Carolina. It's basically lots of small stuff that their maintenance can't or doesn't want to do(repair fixtures, troublshoot photoeyes and timers, etc.) They are having a problem with some landscape lights continually blowing bulbs. They are the Malibu brand with the 180watt/timer combo. There are 8 11 watt lamps on the circuit.


Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#193254 - 03/24/10 02:03 AM Re: landscape lights [Re: schenimann]  
gfretwell  Offline


Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,085
Estero,Fl,usa
Are the bulbs really bad or just developing a bad contact with the socket. These Malibu things are pretty much junk if it is the same stuff they sell at Home Depot.
What is the actual voltage?


Greg Fretwell

#193263 - 03/24/10 09:31 AM Re: landscape lights [Re: gfretwell]  
HotLine1  Offline


Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,833
Brick, NJ USA
Longshot could be....incorrect bulbs. The wedge base bulbs could be the incorrect voltage.



John

#193265 - 03/24/10 10:07 AM Re: landscape lights [Re: gfretwell]  
forqnc  Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 19
Suffolk,Va, USA
Originally Posted by gfretwell
Are the bulbs really bad or just developing a bad contact with the socket. These Malibu things are pretty much junk if it is the same stuff they sell at Home Depot.
What is the actual voltage?


Have to agree here, I have these at my house. If it is not a bad connection with the bulb contacts, it can also be the wire clamp connection, which is usually buried under ground. The wire clamp is also plastic and a pain to crimp tightly.


#193266 - 03/24/10 10:33 AM Re: landscape lights [Re: forqnc]  
jdevlin  Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 402
welland ontario canada
How close are the bulbs to the timer. I beleieve they need to be a certain distance away or the voltage is too high. The output voltage is actually higher to compensate for voltage drop.


#193275 - 03/24/10 06:18 PM Re: landscape lights [Re: jdevlin]  
electure  Offline


Member
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,259
Fullerton, CA USA
"They" (Intermatic) also recommend that the transformer be loaded to at least 50% of its rating, or an overvoltage condition will result.

You might try a 121 watt xfrmr.
http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-ML121RT-Malibu-Voltage-121-Watt/dp/B0002YTPL4

Intermatic also manufactures an 88 watt transformer if you think it's more suited to your needs
http://www.amazon.com/Malibu-ML88T-88-Watt-Ground-Shield/dp/B0000DG57B/ref=pd_cp_hi_2
.


#193286 - 03/25/10 01:31 AM Re: landscape lights [Re: electure]  
WESTUPLACE  Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 251
Kingwood, TX USA
Also, look at the bad bulbs. If they are black, then the bulb envelop cracked, mostly due to water, and let air in.If so check for water intrusion I agree most of these are made real cheap. Robert


#193289 - 03/25/10 09:26 AM Re: landscape lights [Re: WESTUPLACE]  
schenimann  Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 193
Western North Carolina
The bulbs are black. Some of the ones that still work have turned black. I agree that they are cheap. I am getting 12 v at the socket. I will talk to them about upgrading the fixtures.



Member Spotlight
JoeKP
JoeKP
Berkley, MA
Posts: 144
Joined: March 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.014s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 0.7939 MB (Peak: 0.9600 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-06-26 19:09:38 UTC