ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Potseal 11
Recent Posts
Dimmable LED 2x4 lay in fixtures
by Potseal. 04/23/17 07:18 PM
Old decora style outlets
by Lostazhell. 04/22/17 07:59 PM
Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in
by gfretwell. 04/22/17 01:11 PM
How do you find a good employee?
by HotLine1. 04/22/17 10:44 AM
Electrode boilers question
by SteveFehr. 04/21/17 08:32 AM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
234,494 Are you busy
169,159 Re: Forum
162,509 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
2 registered members (Potseal, NORCAL), 73 guests, and 10 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#188043 - 07/18/09 10:59 PM Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd  
cgw  Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 133
Rochester NY
I need to make a pedestal for a small meter and panelboard. It will be permanent (at a park). I was thinking of two 2-1/2" galvanized angles in holes (in the ground with concrete) and galvanized kindorf between them.
What would you do?

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#188047 - 07/19/09 02:13 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: cgw]  
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,069
They make a concrete post with a flanged top for trailer services that might just do the trick

Greg Fretwell

#188050 - 07/19/09 10:58 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: gfretwell]  
renosteinke  Offline
Cat Servant
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
Do you mean like this?:

[Linked Image]

In place of that small panel, look at whay they call an "all in one."

Another good choice is to purchase a pre-made pedestal; you might even save some money.

Anyway, the pressure-treated post gets set 3ft. down, and a little concrete doesn't hurt. A larger panel would probably benefit from a bacjing board. make sure all holes are plugged, and that you maintain the space between the post and the panel.

You need to pipe to a spot under the trailer and set a junction box; make sure the trailer cable can reach! The pipe needs to be 24" down - there's an additional HUD standard, in addition to the NEC.

What size service? Look for the nametag on the trailer. Treat the trailer as if it were a big toaster - not like it were a home.

You also need a ground rod. If your trench is 30" deep, you can lay the rod in the trench.

#188064 - 07/20/09 10:30 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: cgw]  
cgw  Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 133
Rochester NY
It is an 100 amp service for a park (a town park).

#188069 - 07/20/09 06:32 PM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: cgw]  
WNYJim  Offline
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 39
Rochester, NY, USA
Midwest ( has a combination meter chanel / panel that would work. Look at Products / Service Entrance.
There is a photo of what would do the trick.

#188234 - 07/26/09 03:50 PM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: WNYJim]  
JValdes  Offline
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 301
South Carolina
Keep in mind the pedestal is a structure, and all subsequent panels will be sub panels and addressed as sub panels.

A 4X4 treated post is what I would use for a small one. Two 4x4's with a back board for bigger panels.

#188237 - 07/26/09 07:31 PM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: JValdes]  
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,069
Get a little farther south and we say 6x6 .80 PT or that concrete deal I was talking about. (bugs eat'um)
The concrete posts look like a McDonalds coffee stirrer on top. It is a flat surface about 24x18 cast on the end of a 4x4 concrete pole. They put an "all in one" up on one of those for a trailer disco.
Maybe that is just a Florida thing.

Greg Fretwell

#188300 - 07/29/09 11:37 AM Re: Pedestal for exterior meter & panelbd [Re: gfretwell]  
Zapped  Offline
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 482
Huntington Beach, CA, USA
I use metered pedestals. Pacific Utility Products has the USP16-M2100 that has a covered meter and a 12 space panel integrated. You set them on a concrete footer, so there's no need for sticks and exposed conduit, etc. They come in either painted or stainless steel and look 10X better than a 4X4 with a box stuck to it.

If it's a permanent installation, why not do it right?

Member Spotlight
Sebago, ME, USA
Posts: 109
Joined: January 2005
Show All Member Profiles 

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.014s Queries: 15 (0.002s) Memory: 0.7928 MB (Peak: 0.9563 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-04-23 23:44:46 UTC