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Re: Fixture Support #185666
03/23/09 08:58 PM
03/23/09 08:58 PM
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Hi—
Found on the roof of a local starbux; it all sits on a TB supported by a piece of ½-inch EMT...

They look like a pair of 500W quartz-halogen fixtures.

How would you "bring this up to code"?

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Re: Fixture Support [Re: Admin] #185670
03/23/09 09:41 PM
03/23/09 09:41 PM
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Just where is the violation?

OK, maybe there's a fill issue in the conduit body ... but using a Bell box would not change the support issue one bit.

The fixtures arefairlylightweight, and the length of the mast isn't very much.

Cheap? Schlock? Absolutely- but I think it meets code.

Re: Fixture Support [Re: renosteinke] #185672
03/23/09 10:51 PM
03/23/09 10:51 PM
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It's a violation of the support required by 314.23(F).

Re: Fixture Support [Re: electure] #185674
03/24/09 01:01 AM
03/24/09 01:01 AM
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Good catch, Electure! So.... rigidis OK for this use, but not EMT.

Re: Fixture Support [Re: renosteinke] #185677
03/24/09 09:38 AM
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Is there anough room inside the T to legally make up the splices?


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Re: Fixture Support [Re: ghost307] #185927
04/04/09 11:39 PM
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packrat56  Offline
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I agree ghost307, that's a good question.


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Re: Fixture Support [Re: packrat56] #186141
04/21/09 05:24 PM
04/21/09 05:24 PM
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As long as you don't exceed the fill percentage of the fitting, you can make splices in them. I can't recall the Code section offhand though...

I have seen splices in T-fittings before, they seem to fit ok without too much drama.


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Re: Fixture Support [Re: mxslick] #186143
04/21/09 05:56 PM
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some conduit bodies are approved for a splice some are not and I don't know the differences.

Last edited by mikesh; 04/21/09 05:56 PM. Reason: spelling
Re: Fixture Support [Re: mikesh] #186150
04/22/09 12:57 AM
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If they have the CU IN stamped inside the TB conduit body then yeah it can be used for splices otherwise no it can not be used for splices but I know some guys do used the oversied TB bodies for it and install the reduced bushing in there to make room for splices.

Merci,Marc


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Re: Fixture Support [Re: frenchelectrican] #186156
04/22/09 10:59 AM
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I've used the 'over size' method a few times.mainly for parking garage light retros'


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