ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
twh 10
Recent Posts
Windows 10, who's upgraded?
by geoff in UK. 05/29/17 01:05 PM
How do you find a good employee?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:58 AM
Recall notice: Bosch Solar panels
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:53 AM
Correct rotation, wrong sequence
by Potseal. 05/27/17 12:15 AM
Dryer, Range grounding from "Main" panel
by sparkync. 05/25/17 05:49 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
237,005 Are you busy
172,022 Re: Forum
164,898 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
1 registered members (ampherder), 55 guests, and 10 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#182443 - 11/27/08 02:03 AM retro code  
watersparkfalls  Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 216
Washington...Not DC
lets say a guy wanted to know what year a code changed. Where could he find the answer?
tried google but without luck.
Now I know some will say it doesn't matter because the code always changes for the better grin
But I would like to know specifically the code year, here is why.
A local electrician did a home inspection and really nailed the homeowner with lots of violations...now the safty ones I do agree with mind you, but some of these violations would've been prior to enactment of law since the house was built in the early 70's. Again I know safty is our job..... just would like to know for the benifet of knowing. IE two small appliance, bath circuit, outside gfi ect... it would be cool if one could read the first year nec adopted specific codes.
Any ideas where to find online(dont say ebay and buy every codebook since 1891...although I am thinking of collecting something cool)

Thanks
H20


2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides

#182450 - 11/27/08 05:02 AM Re: retro code [Re: watersparkfalls]  
gfretwell  Offline


Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,080
Estero,Fl,usa
Mike Holt probably has a lot of this on his page. I know there is a chart about GFCIs


Greg Fretwell

#182468 - 11/27/08 11:38 PM Re: retro code [Re: gfretwell]  
EV607797  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 745
Fredericksburg, VA, USA
H2O, I think this is an excellent question. I've often wondered the same thing. Home inspectors to tend to get a bit overly-zealous when making their reports because they really don't know what they are talking about.

In the sale of my last home, I got busted for having a #14 wire on each pole of a 15/15 piggyback breaker. What was wrong with that, you ask?

His explanation was that 15 + 15 = 30 amps, so the wires must be #10. D'oh! How did I miss that? These guys do get carried away with their lack of knowledge. In doing so, they can kill potential sales due to their erroneous information.


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."

#182473 - 11/28/08 03:18 AM Re: retro code [Re: EV607797]  
pdh  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 354
Originally Posted by EV607797
His explanation was that 15 + 15 = 30 amps, so the wires must be #10. D'oh! How did I miss that?

I would have explained to him that since wire size numbers are in reverse, a pair of #14 together makes the equivalent of #7 which can handle about 45+ amps at 60C, interpolating from table 310.16. Of course that is COMPLETELY WRONG, but would the home inspector really understand that?

One bright side of the housing market downfall is these guys won't be getting as much business.



Member Spotlight
Niko
Niko
Campbell, CA
Posts: 356
Joined: August 2006
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.011s Queries: 15 (0.002s) Memory: 0.7616 MB (Peak: 0.8946 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-05-30 13:02:31 UTC