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Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL #177864
05/14/08 04:11 AM
05/14/08 04:11 AM
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JuddsAirco  Offline OP
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Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: JuddsAirco] #177871
05/14/08 06:21 AM
05/14/08 06:21 AM
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SteveFehr  Offline
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Looks like reasonable advice. Maybe everyone here can suggest other tips for other homeowner DIYs that find this forum in a google search wink

Better yet, maybe we can find some of those KBR guys who wired up Iraq- I hear they found great ways to save time and money on electrical installations... For instance, did you know the phones wire works just as well as the #12/2 when you runs out and american contractor needs electricty outlet for laptop? Does not work so well for coffee pot.

(Please note, I'm BEING SARCASTIC! Do not try this at home... at least not if you like your home.)

Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: SteveFehr] #177887
05/14/08 05:10 PM
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Rewired  Offline
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
First tip I can suggest to homeowner / DIYs is to throw away that book that everyone seems to have titled "1001 Uses for Lamp Cord".

A.D

Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: Rewired] #177889
05/14/08 05:14 PM
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IMHO, the best advice to give HO's/DIY's is to hire a professional; licensed if the locality has licensing.



John
Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: SteveFehr] #177901
05/14/08 08:58 PM
05/14/08 08:58 PM
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leland  Offline
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Originally Posted by SteveFehr
Looks like reasonable advice.  Maybe everyone here can suggest other tips for other homeowner DIYs that find this forum in a google search ;))


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Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: HotLine1] #177902
05/14/08 08:59 PM
05/14/08 08:59 PM
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M_Grabill  Offline
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Wholeheartedly agree with above post...hire a pro. If the Diy'ers need a reason....send to various arc blast injury pic websites. Just the pics alone should be enough to convince them not to mess with electricity


"We can do it, you can't help" said my son to the HD guy
Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: M_Grabill] #177910
05/15/08 05:38 AM
05/15/08 05:38 AM
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Now, no need to scare the DIYs that badly, you're not gonna get much arc blast out of a residential service, especially not where the DIYs are working and the net result of the arc fault it a scorched piece of #12 and a tripped breaker. Showing them how their house burned down because they did something stupid, THAT would be more responsible of us!

This stuff isn't rocket science, the basics of residential electric are easy enough for anyone to understand and do properly. Sure, it gets compliated in some of the details, but 99.9% of DIY homeowners aren't going to be doing that. And 100% of them should be getting it inspected from their AHJ to make sure they're not going to burn their house down, that's the real problem- not so much that they're doing a few random things wrong, but that they don't fix their mistakes.

And let's face it, a lot of DIY mistakes aren't exactly huge satefy hazards. Only leaving 4" of wire at the box vice 6", for example. Or routing romex directly to a water heater or garbage disposal without conduit. Or tapping a light off the 20A GFCI kitchen circuit. Yeah, it's wrong and poses some sort of risk, and exactly the sort of mistake someone not intimately familiar with the code would make, but it's not exactly a smoking short circuit. If a DIY asks me a question, I'm going to tell him how to do it right, not tell him to hire a pro. (Well, unless he's trying to replace his panel or wire up a pool, or something like that.)

Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: SteveFehr] #177922
05/15/08 02:28 PM
05/15/08 02:28 PM
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This stuff isn't rocket science, the basics of residential electric are easy enough for anyone to understand and do properly. Sure, it gets complicated in some of the details, but 99.9% of DIY homeowners aren't going to be doing that. And 100% of them should be getting it inspected from their AHJ to make sure they're not going to burn their house down, that's the real problem- not so much that they're doing a few random things wrong, but that they don't fix their mistakes.


"Inspections? Permits? Why do I need those? I pay the government enough in taxes! I ain't gettin' no permit. Now hand me that lamp cord!"...

100% should be get it inspected, I'll make a wild guess that 40% do.

Ian A.


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Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: JuddsAirco] #177925
05/15/08 02:37 PM
05/15/08 02:37 PM
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Did anyone read the comments below the article?

Scary. grin

Re: Homeowner Electrical Tips, LOL [Re: Trumpy] #177933
05/15/08 07:28 PM
05/15/08 07:28 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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Estero,Fl,usa
I was yacking with the structural inspector and my mason today and apparently there was a recent meeting in the building department where they were all told they should be a little more cooperative with "owner/builders" so they would come in for permits.
I like to think my complaining may have had something to do with it.
It is really a win-win if homeowners would get a permit and right now the inspectors have the time to help them out a little. I had the suggestion that they double the permit and plan review fees for people who want some extra guidance through the process. I would have paid triple if they could have shaved 3 or 4 weeks off the permit process.
It really took me 10 weeks but I was in a funk for 5 weeks over the idiotic bureaucracy and lost the will to go on. My wife finally kicked me back into the game.


Greg Fretwell

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