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#176405 - 03/31/08 03:24 PM Copper- The Deadliest Metal?  
Tom  Offline
Joined: Jan 2001
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Shinnston, WV USA
Over the weekend, the 5th & 6tth fatality, since the current copper price surge started, occured in the Mountain State.

A 22 year old man tried to steal some copper from a substation in the Southern part of the state. He became entangled in the live wires. His accomplice went & got the victims father who tried to free his son. Unfortunately, the father touched an energized conductor and also perished.

The incident left 600 AEP customers without power.

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.

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#176408 - 03/31/08 06:05 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: Tom]  
Rewired  Offline
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 558
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Know what, I don't mean to sound harsh but I have no sympathy for thieves. I will leave it at that..
Almost seems that copper is more valuable than gold...
Forget trying to break into Fort Knox, thats almost kids stuff now, its a bigger heist to rip off your local distrubution network LOL!


#176409 - 03/31/08 06:17 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: Rewired]  
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,135
I agree with A.D.
I am more concerned about the 600 customers whose beer got warn when they lost power. I don't know why we think theft is such a minor crime ... when they are stealing from someone else. A theft from anyone is a theft from all of us.

Greg Fretwell

#176411 - 03/31/08 06:46 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: gfretwell]  
ChicoC10  Offline
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 169
The thief you catch in the act deserves to pay for not only everything you've ever had stolen but every lock you've ever had to purchase and every inconvenience you've ever suffered while planning your life around being able to watch your property.

As far as copper and gold go my wholesaler told me this morning they are getting closer. He claimed 1/0 THHN went up 23% since Thursday!!!

#176413 - 03/31/08 07:29 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: ChicoC10]  
Tom  Offline
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Posts: 1,044
Shinnston, WV USA
I too have no sympathy for victim #5, but it is a shame that the father got it when he tried to rescue his no good son. I'm starting to think that WV leads the nation in per capita electrocutions during copper theft.

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.

#176421 - 04/01/08 02:09 AM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: Tom]  
RODALCO  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 854
Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
I have also no sympathy for victim # 5. No loss there.

It costs all of us many extra dollars in our monthly powerbills for assets damaged by these copper thieves who stealing from the electricity networks.

They also put the general public at risk. When earthcables are removed from transformers or switchgear, exposed metal parts may become alive and could kill someone.

In certain cases with polemounted switchgear the protection could fail to detect an earth fault and keep live wires energised without tripping the feeder.

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#176429 - 04/01/08 11:24 AM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: RODALCO]  
JValdes  Offline
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 301
South Carolina
No sympathy for the father either. If he was a law abiding member of society, he would have called the authorities, not try to get his son out of trouble.
I hate to say this, but I feel like this loss of life may have a positive effect. Each time someone is killed like this, maybe just maybe others may see the danger. But I doubt it.

#176436 - 04/01/08 05:01 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: JValdes]  
GA76JW  Offline
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 193
Suwanee, GA USA
Originally Posted by JValdes
Each time someone is killed like this, maybe just maybe others may see the danger. But I doubt it.

I also doubt it. Too many people "think" they know what they are doing and they will never get hurt. Most People just have no respect at all for electricity.

"If common sense was common, everyone would have it"-not sure, someone here

#176498 - 04/03/08 09:18 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: GA76JW]  
renosteinke  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
A note to all ....

I've edited this thread, "with an axe," because it was getting a bit off topic.

While I may personally share some of your sentiments ... really, now, do we need to try to 'out macho' the other guy?

We can all agree that stealing is bad, and that's why crimes are punished. We can also sympathize with the innocent victims of criminal acts.

Let's look at these theft reports as a 'heads up' in out lives .... so we can protect ourselves, our property, and our loved ones.

#176500 - 04/03/08 10:58 PM Re: Copper- The Deadliest Metal? [Re: renosteinke]  
32VAC  Offline
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 202
Alice Springs, NT, Australia
I don't know if the same figures are available in other countries for the copper price but this link takes you the the price in Australian Dollars (US$1.00 is around AU$1.10 today)

Last edited by 32VAC; 04/03/08 11:00 PM.

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