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#17133 - 11/21/02 01:51 PM How does this get UL approval?  
txsparky  Offline
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 552
Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
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Can anyone tell me why this wouldn't require an in-use cover?They are being marketed to plug outdoor lighting into.Does UL actually believe that a homeowner will unplug it whenever it rains,sleets,snows,hails, or the sprinkler system comes on?


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#17134 - 11/21/02 03:43 PM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
SJT  Offline
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Posts: 241
I agree. Did that have a UL sticker on it. If it does that would be a great question for a UL person. I'm sure they wouldn't mind to talk to you at all. There main # is (847) 272-8800. That's a main # and they can direct your call.
Good find!

#17135 - 11/21/02 04:41 PM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
txsparky  Offline
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Posts: 552
Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
Here's 1 from the big orange box.

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Manufactured by-ELECTRI-CORD Manufacturing Company
312 East Main Street
Westfield, PA. 16950
Telephone: 814-367-2265 ~ Fax: 814-367-2314
Since 1946
This is from their website--Throughout this catalog, you will see constant reference made to UL and CSA. All of the power supply cords pictured, and all of our molds, where specified, are UL listed and CSA certified. All of our products will fall under one of the following file numbers:


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All of our products are labeled to meet the requirements of UL and CSA. Labeling requirements, of course, vary with the final product classification and end use: power supply cord, detachable power supply cord, wiring harness, cord set, processed wire, etc.

UL and CSA require identification of all components. We achieve this by placing our name and address (Electri-Cord, Westfield, PA) on the face of each plug or connector as it is molded.

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#17136 - 11/21/02 04:44 PM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
SvenNYC  Offline
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,691
New York City
I've seen these in a lot of chain variety K-Mart, Walgreens, etc.

The instructions on some do say to only use outdoors when it is dry...however.....

On the plus side, it does have those little safety slide covers on the receptacles so the squirrels don't stick their claws in the holes! [Linked Image]

#17137 - 11/21/02 07:02 PM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
bobp  Offline
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 70
Puyallup, WA, USA
Anybody that uses one of thosee up here in the rainy Pacific NW has my vote for the Darwin Award.

#17138 - 11/21/02 09:26 PM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
sparkync  Offline
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Posts: 828
Just as a matter of information on the outside lighting. I recently installed some, and they are 12 VAC. The instruction said no danger involved because of the low voltage, which is probably true. I have, however, had my foot in a ditch before and got hold of telephone wires (24VAC), and got a good sizeable jolt [Linked Image] Actually that has happened 3 times that I can remember. Normally under normal conditions, you would never feel the 24 VAC, but if grounded just right, yes you can feel it [Linked Image]

#17139 - 11/21/02 09:50 PM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
NJwirenut  Offline
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 806
Bergen County, NJ
Telephone wires are a bit more than 24 V. Normally about 48 VDC when "on hook", with a ringing voltage of about 90 VAC. You can feel that quite well in damp conditions, especially if someone is ringing the line! [Linked Image]

#17140 - 11/22/02 06:48 AM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
sparky  Offline
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oh thee of little NRTL faith......

#17141 - 11/22/02 11:55 AM Re: How does this get UL approval?  
SJT  Offline
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Thanks for the osha website!

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