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#17059 11/20/02 07:53 AM
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[Linked Image from gemini.genlyte.com]

my prefered can is a dual enclosure, i.e., 2 walls & air space bettween element any anything else.

what's yours?

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There's a certain situational element to keep in mind. . .cabinetry, dropped ceilings, un-insulated finished ceilings. . .but setting those to the side, for insulated ceiling work, I agree with your choice, Sparky. This type of can will provide the greatest selection of trims and bulbs while in contact with insulation, and, in my experience, allow the highest wattage lamps of a given manufacturer's IC line.


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Juno can lights are the only way to go. I have been using them for over 15 years and have never had a problem with one. they cost more but you get what you pay for..........Brian

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Where are you buying Juno? My wife was purchasing manager for one of the largest electrical suppliers in the U.S. She tells me Juno was nearly always cheaper than other brands.
Rowdy

#17063 11/20/02 03:06 PM
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Buying from the local supplier here in Central Wisconsin. For residential I use IC-2 and IC-22 pretty much all the time. IC-22 is around $15 a piece for the housing and $12 for bafle trim............Brian

#17064 11/20/02 06:00 PM
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We generally use Halo cans. They are almost identical to Juno, but since Home Depot sells Halo, they are much cheaper. We've looked at some cheaper cans, but I refuse to use them. Sometimes Lightolier gets spec'd and we use them, but I don't like them due to problems changing lamps or trims.

#17065 11/20/02 06:09 PM
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My supply house handles Juno. I pay $8.15 for an IC22 and $15.77 for an IC22-R. Halo cans at Home Depot and Lowes are within pennies of that.

#17066 11/20/02 06:18 PM
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Lightolier "lytening" = junk

Halo = marginal quality. I don't like how the inside of the housing is visible with some of their cheaper trims. I guess that's why they're cheap.

The local supply stores here mostly sell Halo for giveaway prices. Cans are $7, builder's grade baffle trims are $3, bulb for $2.

Progress cans are pretty good. I like their baffle trims better because you can't see into the housing.


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#17067 11/20/02 06:32 PM
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To me it's not necessarily brand name, but configuration.
Given heat in a hole 2 barriers seems safer than these;
[Linked Image from gemini.genlyte.com]
besides, plumbers, alarm guys etc run right over them.....it does not 'reserve' the trim space...
These ( IC-Non-IC) i simply do not understand, the instructions require one to 'scrap the label off' for it to assume IC status....
[Linked Image from gemini.genlyte.com]
besides, all insulation is not equal, sme of these IC cans have holes, not too good for blown in insulation.

#17068 11/20/02 07:20 PM
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Juno, Halo generally good stuff. Anything that doesn't say Lightolier!

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