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#169373 - 10/03/07 10:21 AM Fire Pumps  
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EMT conduits were previously ran through a Parking Garage. We are bidding on a project at the receiving end. 150HP Pump, 1200 Amp Service Fused Disconnect, RHW wire. REF: 695.6(B)3 - does this apply? This was suggested in the meeting with the GC. I usually avoid a Service disconnect and/or have routed 'outside the building', so haven't used this method. How or where do I confirm (Iknow - AHJ, getting my ducks..)that this is a "listed" electrical circuit protective system, with a minimum 1 hour rating? I've read EMT is not rated, as it is not combustible and read the RHW rating, but can't put my finger on the exactness. Any help?


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#169377 - 10/03/07 11:16 AM Re: Fire Pumps [Re: Last Leg]  
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I had a fire pump with conductors run about 30' into the building. We got by this by putting the raceway down in the corner between floor and wall, building a 2x8 form and pouring it solid with concrete.


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#169380 - 10/03/07 11:55 AM Re: Fire Pumps [Re: gfretwell]  
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Check out www.drakausa.com/lifeline Their RHH wire is listed for two hours in EMT.


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#169385 - 10/03/07 02:59 PM Re: Fire Pumps [Re: Alan Nadon]  
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Just a thought...
The RHH was $$$$$$ on a job that the EC thought would solve the dilemma.
They wound up saw cutting the floor, and going under the slab


John

#169451 - 10/05/07 01:01 PM Re: Fire Pumps [Re: HotLine1]  
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I think that a fire pump must be fed with 2 hour rated conductors. In EMT there is a special conductor that can give a 2 hr rating otherwise I think you need several inches of concrete encasement or other 2 hour fire rated enclosure.


#169452 - 10/05/07 01:06 PM Re: Fire Pumps [Re: mikesh]  
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RRH is a lot of $$$$ but it will pass the 2 hour rate in emt.

Have fun pulling it its thick . We over size the emt.

Larry

Last edited by allphase; 10/05/07 01:07 PM.

#169466 - 10/05/07 05:55 PM Re: Fire Pumps [Re: allphase]  
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Thanks for the input... just turned in the bid. Wish I had checked 'have fun pulling it.. it's thick' first. Pipe is oversized a bit though - 3- 250's and grnd in a 3". I did up the labor a bit, not knowing.
Thanks all.



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