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#166552 - 07/23/07 04:27 PM career help  
charlesA  Offline
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Here is a little personal info about myself. I'm currently in the military and I will be getting out with 8 years of service. I have an Associates Degree in Electromechanical Control Technology, a certificate in electrical wiring, ETA certified Fiber Optics Installer, ETA certified Fiber Optics Technician and my completed Electrical Apprenticship Certificate. I have a couple questions for the experienced civilian electrician.

1. I plan on living in Texas and I want to get my Journeymans License for Texas. I am stationed in Virginia is there any way I can take the test at a Virginia test site? or will I have to fly out to Texas?
2. What are the pro's and con's about being a Union Electrician? Being that I already have the training, is it a good decision to join a union? If so which one?
3. What do you think a realistic starting salary would be for me?
4. Are there any special skills or certificate employer's are looking for?


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#166555 - 07/23/07 05:23 PM Re: career help [Re: charlesA]  
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Charles, I see you are a new member.
Welcome!

We won't address question #2 here.

There are a few places we don't go on this forum. Discussions of the pros and cons of union vs non is one of those places smile


#166556 - 07/23/07 05:39 PM Re: career help [Re: electure]  
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1) Yes Texas uses a state license program: http://www.license.state.tx.us/electricians/elec.htm

If you can pass the SBCCI test, administered by a local testing agency in your area, that will satisfy the test part. I am not sure of the residency issue, you may need to read the link above.

2) Then Union is a good way to get some training and your benefits may pay some of your wages while you train and are not up to scale. There is lots of work here for people who want it and the union will put you to work.

Pros: [edit]
Cons: [edit]

In a nut shell, I have recommended to many young men that the Union would be a good career path, you really have nothing to lose to try it.

3) Journeymen-
$30.36 (not all take home $3.75 of that is the insurance that I mentioned above).

Apprentices-
1st Year $17.20/$18.51
2nd Year $19.88
3rd Year $22.50
4th Year $23.81
5th Year $25.12

If you go in with a license but not all the skills there is a program called JIT (journeyman in training) with pay appropriate to your skill level.

4) I look for people with these qualities (in this order):
Shows up every day, and on time.
Can think on their feet.
Produces a lot ever day.
Problem solver.
Organizational skill.

If I am lucky they can:
Run men
Layout jobs

I have 4 ex-military guys now that don’t take any crap and can do anything I ask them to, do it well, and do it fast, but I went through about 50 to find them.

Dependability and Leadership are by far the most desirable skillsets for this trade.





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#166558 - 07/23/07 05:48 PM Re: career help [Re: ITO]  
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ITO, thank you for an excellent, factual post.



#166563 - 07/23/07 07:02 PM Re: career help [Re: renosteinke]  
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I can't add anything to ITO's post.

If I was looking for an employee, you would be on my interview list.



#166566 - 07/23/07 07:26 PM Re: career help [Re: LK]  
copper  Offline
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I am sure if someone wanted to chime in about pros and cons of a union they can send it via Private Message or PM.

I was looking to move to TX, A guy with a apprentice license was around $15 and J-man was $18/hr.

In TX I would looking into instrumentation and controls www.ictechs.com is a site you can look at. I honestly won't be a plain OL electrician, Do what makes you happy. as far as TX I could take the exam in PA. there is an institute that provides the exam. I forget what it was.

Good luck


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