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#15679 - 10/24/02 10:15 PM new home service  
Cindy  Offline
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 196
can he do this????... new home being built by a homeowner in an old subdivision

weatherhead is 3 feet above the back of the house, using 2-1/2" sch 40 PVC from weatherhead down through overhang, down 2 stories on the siding, then about 60 feet to the front along the side of the house maybe knee high off the ground... isnt there an ugly clause in 110 somewhere?

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#15680 - 10/25/02 07:03 AM Re: new home service  
sparky  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,311
mast risers are usually RMC, subject to the poco's specs , otherwise it's common to have an OH service in pvc...

#15681 - 10/25/02 07:27 AM Re: new home service  
Redsy  Offline
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,056
Bucks County PA
Is the PVC actually supporting the utility service drop?
If so 230.28 requires it be of "adequate strength". I doubt an inspector would approve of PVC. Also, the PoCo probably requires a minimum of 2" RMC.
Regarding the "ugly clause"... see 110.12

#15682 - 10/25/02 07:38 AM Re: new home service  
Joe Tedesco  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,749
Boston, Massachusetts USA
Got to see this installation! Get a picture and post it here please!

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#15683 - 10/25/02 03:26 PM Re: new home service  
ElectricAL  Offline
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA
Just when I think I might have heard/seen it all! [Linked Image]

A PVC mast!!! [Linked Image]

Al Hildenbrand

#15684 - 10/25/02 05:47 PM Re: new home service  
rhagfo  Offline
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 43
Portland, OR. USA
Must be Southern California, PVC mast will flex during seismic activity, there by preventing damage to the poco's service drop!!

About the ugly clause, if he doesn't guy off the 3' of PVC mast, it should develop a very nice bend at the roof line.

#15685 - 10/26/02 05:19 PM Re: new home service  
harold endean  Offline
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,233
Boonton, NJ
Hold on, maybe the PVC service pipe is not a mast. Then it might not be a violation. Right? Plus the point of attachment could be connected below the head (and on the house) and this would be a legal service. As for the height of the PoCo meter, that might be a PoCo requirement. Around here the PoCo want's 4-5 feet to the center of the meter. Unless it is on a driveway, then they want it as high as possible with 6'6" MAX to the top of the meter pan.

#15686 - 10/30/02 12:07 AM Re: new home service  
Cindy  Offline
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 196
here's the pictures...... click on the picture to link to it's larger image, each linked photo should take about 20 seconds with a 56/modem, only ~2 seconds on mine

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he cut the pvc in half top to bottom, longitudinally, maybe didnt fit???

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here's the other side of the vertically cut pvc, and i wonder if the utility will go for the short sweep elbows

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he used a flush mount so had to cut into the siding, and then bent the base outward, and i think the trim is the only thing over the flanges, there's not enough space for the edge flanges to be under the siding

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it's all schedule 40 with straps anywhere from 3 feet to 10 feet apart

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#15687 - 10/30/02 12:15 AM Re: new home service  
Cindy  Offline
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 196
here's the rest....

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this is one of the nicest pvc-imc connections i've ever seen...... i didn't make any of this up..... thought you'd have to see it to believe it

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last week it had a weatherhead and pvc, this week it was a length of imc and no weatherhead

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this pic shows some overspans on his pvc supports

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i guess i dont have a problem with the schedule 40 here, because there isnt room for large vehicles to damage it??

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#15688 - 10/30/02 12:33 AM Re: new home service  
caselec  Offline
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 558
San Jose, CA
That's one ugly installation! I love the PVC to IMC conversion! Did the building department and utility approve this installation?

Curt Swartz

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