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Labor hours for residential garage #156673
06/01/05 08:36 AM
06/01/05 08:36 AM
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BobH  Offline OP
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Newfane, N.Y USA
Just curious to know what some of you estimate for hours. Run a 60 amp 4 wire feeder with pvc (70 ft) hand dug,main panel in basement, install normal receptacles, lights, and wire up a furnace. 60 amp sub-panel with grounding electrode. Nothing out of the norm, just ball park to check to see if I'm too low.

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Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156674
06/01/05 11:08 AM
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Tiger  Offline
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Crystal Lake, IL USA
It would all be pretty straight forward except the hand digging. I'd call a trencher for 70'. Do your best to break it down into smaller tasks. Add up the tasks at your normal rate with materials. Add profit and you'll be fine.

Dave

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156675
06/01/05 12:49 PM
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luckyshadow  Offline
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Maryland USA
I agree with Tiger- The labor spent digging 70' to the proper depth would be more then enough to pay for trencher. A trencher will give you a better job also - when all is back filled just a 4" wide path to seed!

Ken

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156676
06/01/05 04:44 PM
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LK  Offline
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New Jersey
Why make a project out of it, 6" deep RMC less digging.

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156677
06/02/05 02:36 PM
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madmike440  Offline
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cleveland,oh
with the cost of rmc right now i'd go with the pvc

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156678
06/02/05 06:40 PM
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LK  Offline
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New Jersey
We save money using RMC even at the increased cost , the labor is the real cost,
30% cheaper job using RMC.

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156679
06/02/05 11:02 PM
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The_Judge  Offline
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LK, trenching or hand-digging?

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156680
06/03/05 10:11 AM
06/03/05 10:11 AM
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BobH  Offline OP
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Newfane, N.Y USA
A friend of mine said he'll bring his small back hoe and trench the 70' for $100, cheaper than a rental and no trailer or delivery charges. I thought about rmc but this particular job just seems easier to run pvc right out of service panel through basement and out with an LB, plastic is just so darn easy to work with and cheap, 1" is .32 cents per foot. One question I have though is concerning the friend with the back-hoe, if he isn't insured I think myself or the homeowner might be taking on undue liability, what are some thoughts on this? Do you guys ever get help from buddies, etc and consider the liability involved.

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156681
06/03/05 11:18 AM
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luckyshadow  Offline
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Maryland USA
Backhoe ? in someones yard ? think about this tire tracks in the yard, minimum of a 12" wide trench. torn up sod , a whole lot of hand raking doing back fill and filling in the tire tracks. I think a backhoe to be extreme in this case. I would have added the cost of rental of trencher into the job. whats a trencher cost to rent? how much more then $100.
Take no offense these are just my thoughts based on alot of commercial trench work.

Re: Labor hours for residential garage #156682
06/03/05 01:03 PM
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DougW  Offline
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North Chicago, IL
My rental last month of a trencher was $145/day. They set the cut for 6". If it had been flat a 65' run would have taken 30 minutes.

(The area tilted, and had obstructions, so it took a little longer to rassle with the machine).

Don't forget to call JULIE
(or whatever you underground utility locatins service is called near you)



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