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#145629 - 06/19/06 08:32 AM Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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I didn't have to go very far for taking these pictures... they're right from my bedroom.

The 3-way next to my desk... right now feeding the iBook and inkjet printer.
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Same style, other side of the window, supplying my vintage reading lamp - also shown in picture.
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The back side of such a 3 way - they either plug into a single receptacle or screw onto the guts (mine are screwed on).
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Light switch and receptacle - probably 1950s.
The brown zip cord with ungrounded plug is an extension cord feeding the TV, video and alarm clock.
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Matching Schuko socket
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The oldest stuff: switch and receptacle with glass face plate! (pre WWII, maybe even pre WWI). The receptacle is missing the painted piece of sheet metal behind the glass.
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Way old light socket (think 1900-1910) with modern E27 light bulb - exposes a_lot_ of thread!
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#145630 - 06/19/06 03:31 PM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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very nice pics. you must have a lot of trust in these old devices...
i think i couldn't have. i would have ripped it all out long ago and given reading lamp and tv extension a new cord.


#145631 - 06/19/06 04:15 PM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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I have grown up with such old stuff... i checked everything real closely, and since the cords don't show any damage I decided to trust them.
Besides, the lamp would look remuddled with any other cord... and new twisted lamp cord is _really_ expensive!


#145632 - 06/19/06 08:32 PM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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Those round schuko outlets were definitely used here at one stage.

I've seen them in 1950s buildings, although not in active service. They're usually burried in wood panelling / skirting boards and just never removed when rewiring happened and BS1363 outlets replaced them.


#145633 - 06/19/06 08:42 PM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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WE used the same non - earthed 3 way ppt's and T adaptors in Holland, when I lived there pre 1988.

These T adaptors were officially banned but were still around on flea markets and imporiums.
Mainly because you could stick a plug in them with one prong, while the other prong was fully exposed, and could be live !!

Also the combined light switch, powerpoint and earthed schuko socket are still around in a lot of older places.

Great piccies,

The switch with the glass plate is interesting, never seen those before.


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#145634 - 06/19/06 08:53 PM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/ZZSI30Y1950.html
That gives you the full specification for the plug/socket system in Ireland from 1950!
complete with hand-drawn diagrams, specs etc for a 10A 2-pin earthed and non earthed plug/socket system. (Schuko)

Along with test procedures!!

There's the Irish Standards (original one) mark from 1950
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Creepily like the CE mark!

"A standard mark shall include the words "Caighdeán Éireannach" or the initials "C.É." and may include the words "Irish Standard" or the initials "I.S." or any other mark."

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#145635 - 06/20/06 04:05 AM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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Gaah! The CE marking is an Irish conspiracy! Where will they stop? Soon we'll all speak Irish or if we're lucky English with a strong accent...


#145636 - 06/20/06 04:22 AM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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aaagh Those old flexes. Have had bad experiances with those eway back in my yonger days. 60s and 70s before I became an electrician.


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#145637 - 06/20/06 06:15 AM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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These T adaptors were officially banned but were still around on flea markets and imporiums.

They're theoretically banned here too, but still in wide use, even the smaler ones that are really bad (tend to wear loose and arc).
Everybody who works on old equipment likes to have those, since they allow to plug old round plugs (like on my lamp) into Schuko outlets. Nice for old radios and stuff.

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The switch with the glass plate is interesting, never seen those before.

They seem to have been common in the 1920s and 30s, even in less than upscale homes (municipial housing to be precise).
Berker still makes them, €100 a switch I think.

@kenbo: what are you talking about? the flat plastic stuff or the twisted cloth from the lamp?
Believe me, I checked the rubber of that braided cloth cord _real_ close before plugging it in! It's not brittle at all and has no signs of mechanical damage. That stuff is incredibly flexible!

The wiring in the walls is part original 1913 cloth wire, part 1960s wire in conduit. Everything is on a 30mA RCD.
I believe originally there were two switches where the white one is now, but at some point they were split up and now there's one switch to either side of the door. The wiring for two lights or a split chandelier is still in the ceiling.

This kind of Schuko socket can be widely found in 1950s houses. Older ones sometimes have them in the kitchen. They have a porcelaine body and are close to indestructible.


#145638 - 06/20/06 11:16 AM Re: Some real old stuff from Austria - still in daily use  
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Well, the figure-8 cord with the tape wrapped around it doesn't inspire much confidence. [Linked Image]

Isn't that stuff still sold over there? I know it's the most common type of flexible cordage over here for light-duty use.


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