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#141234 - 07/04/04 08:34 AM subbies wage rates  
teach  Offline
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 15
Hello all....
Just an enquiry about wages.
I believe that in england you can work as a spark without qualifications/ a ticket, whereas it seems everywhere else you need certification. Im sure the lowest pay therefore is in the UK. The subbie rate here is around 12 to 14 an hour. I was talking to my cousin in Ireland last week and he has to pay his subbies 35 euro which is the going rate.Even 6 years ago I got a little work in scandanavia and negotiated £12/hr and thiught i was doing ok. When I got to Norway the local sparkies were on £24/hr equivalent.My question what are the ballpark rates and needed qualification across ECN land?

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#141235 - 07/04/04 01:59 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
pauluk  Offline
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
Having been self-employed for so long and pricing by the job rather than a fixed hourly rate, I have no idea what the average would be.

Yes, it's true that officially there is no licensing required in England, although I'm not so sure that would automatically equate to the lowest pay.

That pay in Norway may seem very high, but don't forget that it is an horrendously expensive country, and with very high rates of taxation, even by British standards.

#141236 - 07/04/04 03:20 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
teach  Offline
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Posts: 15
yes paul.
The norwegian said tax was big.
on the flip side though when i worked krona back to sterling i found that fags, fuel and big mac meals were cheaper than old blighty!!!

#141237 - 04/09/06 01:12 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
TeesdaleSparkUK  Offline
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Posts: 20
Sub contract rates in North East England vary considerably around £12 to £25. I've subbed for £25 and was turned downed for work when I asked £15 per hour.

It's interesting that Norway is considered a high tax country. My brother works there and we both worked out how much we pay in income tax - he pays less. Interest on loans and travel to work costs are not liable to income tax in Norway.

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#141238 - 04/09/06 03:46 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
Alan Belson  Offline
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,803
Mayenne N. France
For France, the going rate varies with location [ paysage v. grande ville, just like everywhere else], but 50 euros per hour would be about the rate here in the sticks. That will include at least 9 Euro 50c per hour social-security payments for an employee or self-employed electrician,[BTW, even when you have no work!! ] and 19.6% tva ( or 5% in certain circs ), say E32.50 net = 20 quid in your pocket before income tax. Cost of living is generally lower than the UK, particularly housing, local taxes, wine, tobacco, food, petrol, diesel, clothes etc.. [Linked Image]
As to qualifications here, the local Chambre des Metiers, [ similar to the UK mediaeval Craft Guilds ], would judge if your UK qualifications were suitable to work in the trade, ie RELEVANT City + Guilds or ONC/HNC, and/or a RELEVANT apprenticeship, plus a short UK/Fr changeover course if needed, [free and you pick up c.60 euros a week expenses]. If not you can't operate, full stop.
And you need mandatory Insurance to cover yourself if your workmanship is found faulty.
Plus everything you do must be guaranteed for 10 years.
There are no Inspectors and no Building Control Officers. Just your pride in your metier and your skills, which the powers-that-be rely on for good workmanship. Create enough cock-ups and the Chambre, ie your fellow craftsmen, can and will strike you off!


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#141239 - 04/09/06 04:39 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
TeesdaleSparkUK  Offline
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I wish I'd taken notice in them French lessons.

#141240 - 04/09/06 06:54 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
festus  Offline
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 40
fairfax Va USA
As a government employee there I only got 23.00 an hour. Northern cities pay more.

{festus, I've removed your union comments and also sent you an e-mail}

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#141241 - 04/10/06 01:07 PM Re: subbies wage rates  
Belgian  Offline
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 177
I am self employed charging 40 eur/hour. I'm not the cheapest and not the most expensive.

#141242 - 04/11/06 02:38 AM Re: subbies wage rates  
Trumpy  Offline

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,217
SI,New Zealand
Here in New Zealand, I've charged out jobs as the Electrical Contractor, in terms of Materials and Labour, as a full price.
I don't care what anyone says, I have my own Spreadsheet, that I update myself with local prices.
Or at least I did when I was in the "know".
Main Contractor here would say, give us your "best price".
I'm giving him the best price, try and get my services for less, with the same quality job?.
One thing you people have to realise, is that your Contractor is paying for your expertise and the best way to do things, therefore it should take you less time.
It's not a labour only thing!.

Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

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