IMO, they could have made some configurations backwared compatible, like the French 3P+N+E 20A plug in another thread, so you an attach certain applianced in a "universal" outlet, and have "universal" Plugs. I know for a fact though, that Eagle Cooper sells a multi-spec plug (has removable prongs), that can do at least NEMA 5-50, 6-30, and 6-50
Re: List of american plug systems#139911 01/03/0412:48 PM01/03/0412:48 PM
there are equally many versions of the CEE plugs. Most of them you never see.
It's pretty easy to see why: 4 sizes (16, 32, 63, 125) and three different number of pins (3, 4, 5) and twelve different voltage/frequency configurations for each. This sums up to 144 different plugs. Of course, many of these have no specified use and are not manufactured.
i knew about the lot of the cee plugs, but most of them are uncommon.
Common are mainly the 2+E blue one for 230V 16A heavy industrial equipment, camping sites etc. and the 3+N+E red one in 16, 32 or 63A for nearly all 3Ph Appliances, building site panels ect.
I havent seen any 3ph+E without neutral cee's. There are some but i cant figure out where to use them right now. When we power a 3PH delta motor, we always use the 3LNE system and leave the N unconnected.
Wjich ones are the most common US plugs out of all of these?
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Re: List of american plug systems#139913 01/03/0405:24 PM01/03/0405:24 PM
5-15 General purpose (mostly duplex; one over the other) 1-15 Obsolete but common on old properties 5-20 Mainly dedicated equipment (mostly single; furnace, pump etc) 6-20 Workshop; air conditioners * 10-30 Dryer (old) 10-50 Stove (old) 14-30 Dryer (new) 14-50 Stove (new) rare are 6-30 and 6-50 for welding machines
Most common plug – domestic
1-15 Most equipment is class2 (including metal jacketed toasters!) 5-15 Class 1 6-15 240V stuff * then as above
Note that the connectors for 30A and above are about 1.5 times the size of those 20A and below so what appear to be similar geometries are not. Most installations have the ground pin at the bottom – a source of passionate debate on the other forum.
Bjarney et al. may be able to enlighten you on the industrial side.
* I'm using a personal based example and normally these would be only slightly more common than the welders
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Re: List of american plug systems#139914 01/03/0410:12 PM01/03/0410:12 PM
There are a few typos in the Quail chart: “30 250V” “30 120/208V” should read 3ø 250V 3ø 120/208V, but are close to obsolete for lack of a grounding pin. OTOH, there is a completely different set of US/NEMA locking wiring devices, that are a bit more common in commercial/industrial applications. Also, I have seen in places like McDonald’s [cardboard] Hamburgers—rugged, often “washdown duty,” circuit-interrupting pin-and-sleeve devices, that fit the IEC309 series 2 dimensions.
Re: List of american plug systems#139915 01/06/0405:28 AM01/06/0405:28 AM