ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
twh 10
Recent Posts
Windows 10, who's upgraded?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 11:02 AM
How do you find a good employee?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:58 AM
Recall notice: Bosch Solar panels
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:53 AM
Correct rotation, wrong sequence
by Potseal. 05/27/17 12:15 AM
Dryer, Range grounding from "Main" panel
by sparkync. 05/25/17 05:49 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
236,923 Are you busy
171,931 Re: Forum
164,813 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 45 guests, and 9 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
#13828 - 09/12/02 09:19 PM Who wires the appliances?  
Happi_Man  Offline
Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 206
Columbus, Ohio - USA
A builder told me today that he wanted to knock a few bucks off his bill because he's not going to have us wire up the appliances (i.e. dishwasher, range, cooktop, etc.) from now on.

I told him that I would love to "knock a few bucks off" except that he doesn't pay me to wire up appliances in the first place. If the dishwasher happens to get delivered and I am working the finish that day I might slide it in under the counter and connect the wire but I don't charge him for it. He pays for me to supply wiring to the point of junction not to install the appliance. Am I wrong here? Shouldn't the people who are delivering the appliances and charging him an install fee be making those final connections?

Is there a standard?


Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#13829 - 09/12/02 09:35 PM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
Electric Eagle  Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 914
Alpharetta, GA
Everybody does it different. I've had contractors use appliance installers and that's fine with me, but it's not going to change my bill much. I will take a few bucks off if I don't have to install a double oven, but not for the dishwasher. I won't "install" a cooktop with a downdraft either way, but I will wire it once they install it.

If you want to continue working for the contractor and he pays good, then take off a few bucks ($10ea) for the large appliances, but stand firm on the small ones that only take 2 minutes to install.


#13830 - 09/12/02 09:38 PM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
Bill Addiss  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,878
NY, USA
Happi,

The delivery people don't connect/disconnect appliances where I'm from. They would be required to be Licensed.

I personally would rather not have to do them, but I think it is the Electricians' responsibility. If someone asked me that I would insist that the builder sign something saying he was responsible for hookup and have it noted on any Inspection certificates that I did not make the final connections.

Bill


#13831 - 09/12/02 09:39 PM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
Happi_Man  Offline
Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 206
Columbus, Ohio - USA
That's the thing - its usually the dishwasher too. For instance today - i stopped by this finish on my way out to hook up the dishwasher - the oven, the cooktop and everything else was already hooked up...
That's what I'm talking about - I don't usually hook up the appliances...


#13832 - 09/12/02 09:48 PM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
harold endean  Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,233
Boonton, NJ
Here in NJ I would wire up the appliance and I would charge for it. However I would not install it. I lft that up to the appliance installers. I didn't have the tools to cut formica nor did I want to take a chance.


#13833 - 09/12/02 10:41 PM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
CanadianSparky  Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 85
Alberta Canada
What do you guys do about the Range Hoods? Around here the Tinbashers supply them and we always seem to be hanging them. Dishwashers always seem to get us brownie points though for how simple they are.


#13834 - 09/13/02 06:07 AM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
sparky66wv  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,236
West Virginia
Heck, I've installed icemakers just to keep the peace...


-Virgil
Residential/Commercial Inspector
5 Star Inspections
Member IAEI

#13835 - 09/13/02 06:57 AM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
sparky  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,308
I make any appliance i can a receptacled device, (422.16..et all..) under sink , usually a 2 circuit deal if there is a pig, micro receptacle in upper cabinet, etc....


the GC can cut corners where s/he likes, it's then up to the appliance guys to come when they like, & provide the proper pigtail...


#13836 - 09/13/02 07:15 AM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
electrician02125  Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 89
I wire all appliances that I provide branch circuits for.

If I did not provide the branch circuit then I have to do a little snooping around $$$$ to determine if the circuit is sized properly to connect.


#13837 - 09/13/02 10:28 AM Re: Who wires the appliances?  
mamills  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 745
Wharton, Texas, USA
Hi Sparky;
Showing off my ignorance again...what is a "pig"? [Linked Image]

Sorry...I think I figgered it out (kinda slow today)...Pigtail.

Mike (mamills)

[This message has been edited by mamills (edited 09-13-2002).]


Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Member Spotlight
sbi
sbi
indiana
Posts: 47
Joined: March 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.017s Queries: 15 (0.005s) Memory: 0.8187 MB (Peak: 0.9927 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-05-28 08:35:47 UTC