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Little League Baseball Field #13773
09/11/02 03:27 PM
09/11/02 03:27 PM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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Pennsylvania
Please check my math:

(22) 1500 watt metal halide light standard fixtures @208 volts, 8.2 amps each. They will be balanced on a 120/208 volt, three phase, 4 wire service.

37,523 watt load divided by 208 x 1.73=104 amps.
The load would be considered continuous thus multiply by 1.25 = 130 amps total load.

Am I correct?

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Re: Little League Baseball Field #13774
09/11/02 03:43 PM
09/11/02 03:43 PM
Tom  Offline
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Shinnston, WV USA
I dunno.

Try this, 21 fixtures installed so they balance out on all 3 phases equals 114.8 amps, add one more fixture on 2 phases brings the total to 123 amps multiply by 1.25 = 153.75 amps

you'll either need a 150 amp panel (your calculation) or a 200 amp panel (my calculation). The price difference is probably non-existant. The only cost that might matter would be the feeder size.


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Re: Little League Baseball Field #13775
09/11/02 04:29 PM
09/11/02 04:29 PM
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tsolanto  Offline
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Long Island NY
Frank, I did the calculation and came up with the same amperage as you did. I beleive you are correct

Re: Little League Baseball Field #13776
09/11/02 04:36 PM
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electric-ed  Offline
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Each fixture - 208v x 8.2a = 1705.6 va
22 fixtures + 2 (to balance load) = 24 fixtures
1705.6 va x 24 = 40 934.4 va

40 934.4 va divide by 208 = 196.8 amps
divide by 1.73 = 113.7 amps
113.7 x 1.25 (continuous load) = 142.5 amps

Ed

Re: Little League Baseball Field #13777
09/12/02 10:20 AM
09/12/02 10:20 AM
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Redsy  Offline
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Bucks County PA
Frank,

Don't forget to add (10%?) for ballasts.

Re: Little League Baseball Field #13778
09/12/02 02:05 PM
09/12/02 02:05 PM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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Is that for power factor?

Re: Little League Baseball Field #13779
09/12/02 05:07 PM
09/12/02 05:07 PM
Tom  Offline
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Shinnston, WV USA
Am I missing something? Why is everyone trying to change this calculation to volt-amps when Frank has stated that each fixture draws 8.2 amps?

Doing the Volt-Amp thing might be advantageuos if this load could be equally shared by all three phases, but since it can't, I feel the resulting answers are too low. The math is correct, so I'll assume that everyone slipped off their boots to use their toes [Linked Image] and they all did their gazintas correctly.

There will be 15 fixtures on A phase x 8.2 = 123 amps, 15 fixtures on B phase x 8.2 amps = 123 amps

C phase only has 14 fixtures x 8.2 amp=114.8 amp.

125 amps x 125% = 153.75 amps, too much for 150 amp feeder or 150 amp panel.


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Re: Little League Baseball Field #13780
09/12/02 07:01 PM
09/12/02 07:01 PM
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Chris Rudolph  Offline
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Posts: 160
Winter Park,Fl USA
A 1500 watt fixture at 208 volts will draw 7.2amps continuous.Why are we talking 8.2 amps and adding 125% for a continuous load?
What am I missing?
Chris

Re: Little League Baseball Field #13781
09/12/02 07:39 PM
09/12/02 07:39 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Brick, NJ USA
Chris:
A 1500 watt metal halide sport light draws 8.2 amps at 208 voltsat full illumination, and 4.70 amps starting. Source of info is Lumark/Cooper Lighting.

That is a high power factor, CWA.

HotLine1
John

PS to Frank: Put in a 200 amp feeder and panel please!


John
Re: Little League Baseball Field #13782
09/12/02 07:58 PM
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Chris Rudolph  Offline
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Posts: 160
Winter Park,Fl USA
John,
Thanks for the info.Does Lumark/Cooper have a WEB site with tech info for their products?
Chris

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