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#132157 - 04/02/05 12:24 AM USB Cables  
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Could someone please tell me if there is a maximum allowable length for USB Accessory cables?.


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#132158 - 04/02/05 01:59 AM Re: USB Cables  
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I think it is 6' but I have 2 chained together (12') for a mouse and it works fine... but that is not a very demanding load.


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#132159 - 04/02/05 04:22 AM Re: USB Cables  
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15 m ones are readily available and I've put 2 of those together without trouble. At work, we have slow devices (mouse, keyboard) running on about 75 feet. They did tend to fail when they tried 100 feet in development.
Hubs are usually repeaters so, if you have a special need for distance, just add a hub every 30 to 50 feet.


#132160 - 04/02/05 05:46 AM Re: USB Cables  
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gfretwell, Big Jim,
Thanks for your comments guys!. [Linked Image]
I was wondering this because I'm looking to move my Web-cam a bit further away from the computer and I was wondering what sort of distance I could get away with.


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#132161 - 04/02/05 01:09 PM Re: USB Cables  
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I believe Sir requires a read of this :-)
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22237


#132162 - 04/02/05 07:48 PM Re: USB Cables  
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Wow,
Thanks for that article, jooles. [Linked Image]
Sure makes interesting reading and it's quite funny in places.
Another thing I found there was a link to the USB FAQ . [Linked Image]


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#132163 - 04/04/05 03:13 AM Re: USB Cables  
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When I went back and looked at my reply, I noticed a mistake. should have been 3 m (15 foot) for a total of 30 feet for my personal run.

Sorry


#132164 - 04/07/05 04:26 AM Re: USB Cables  
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Scott35,
I have an idea that you posted a thing about the actual USB plug configuration?.
Is it a 5V system or 12V DC?.
I realise that there are 2 data wires too.
Could you please re-post the protocol?.
Cheers,
Mike.


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#132165 - 04/09/05 07:53 PM Re: USB Cables  
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Mike (Trumpy);

I remember the thread, just cannot find it through simple searching.

I'll post protocols later today.

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Scott35,
I have an idea that you posted a thing about the actual USB plug configuration?.
Is it a 5V system or 12V DC?.
I realise that there are 2 data wires too.
Could you please re-post the protocol?.
Cheers,
Mike.


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#132166 - 04/10/05 11:40 AM Re: USB Cables  
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Mike (Trumpy);

Here's the typical USB Cable Connector Pinout information:

PIN # 1: + 5 VDC ( Vcc ),
PIN # 2: - DATA ( D- ),
PIN # 3: + DATA ( D+ ),
PIN # 4: GROUND ( GND )

4-PIN MALE at the Controller,
4-PIN FEMALE at the Peripheral

Upstream / Series "A" Connector is the thin, rectangular one.
Downstream / Series "B" Connector is the one with the 45° angles at the top.

Pinouts should be equal for IEEE 1392 "Firewire"

USB Devices communicate over the Bus via typical Packets, and of course, a group of Packets doing something useful is a Bus Transaction.
Interestingly, the USB network functions like IBM's Token Ring - only without the ring (ring in/ring out at MSAUs).
A device is given permission to communicate on the Bus when it receives a Token.

127 maximum nodes (devices).
Two different device speeds - 12 MBPS or 1.5 MBPS - both speeds may be used on the same network, so devices of either speed may be used together.

Found a gazillion other pinouts - like almost every connector / adapter (bus card or SIMM/DIMM) that can be found on Computers - be it an IBM type or Mac.
Would be great to compile this data ... also would be great to win $1,000,000.00 at the Poker Tables in Vegas; so let's see what happens first!
[Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

Let me know if you have additional Q's (Questions).

Scott35


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