ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Potseal 11
Recent Posts
600 KW 120/208 3 Phase Y protection
by Yooperup. 07/24/17 12:20 PM
1913 American Electrician's Handbook
by gfretwell. 07/20/17 01:08 PM
Green House wiring
by ghost307. 07/20/17 09:10 AM
Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in
by HotLine1. 07/18/17 08:06 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
239,347 Are you busy
174,811 Re: Forum
167,192 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 53 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#129616 - 06/15/05 06:24 PM Harmonics Again  
Dnkldorf  Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,064
nowhere usa
I am reading where Harmonic currents get trapped in the Delta windings in a D-Y transformer, they circulate and heat them dry transformers up.

Question, Do they ever make it back to the POCO transformers, or do they stay circulating in the SDS transformer?


Dnk.....


Tools for Electricians:

#129617 - 06/19/05 12:29 AM Re: Harmonics Again  
renosteinke  Offline
Cat Servant
Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
I think we have to be careful, as all the various 'models' we use have their limitations.

I would say that, first of all, nothing gets "trapped." Converted to heat or motion, perhaps...but it simply can't just sit there accumulating.

Secondly, we are dealing with AC. While all electricity is invisible- we have to use our imaginations to try to understand it- AC has a few quirks that DC lacks. These quirks exist because AC is always in a state of change- even when nothing is happening. Induction, reactance, impedence, and even capacitance are strongly influenced by this constant flux.

The whole point of harmonics is the effect certain things have on the time something happens....delay some current a little, and it gets added to the current from another phase, thus overloading the neutral. I would say that, at the transformer, where the neutral originates, that all time-affected matters balance out- perhaps generating some heat in the process.

I expect that this "balancing" may not be perfect- that is, the current may not return to being exactly in sync with the voltage. This is 'power factor,' and is something that is sent on to the power company grid. Another facet of "power quality," this is addressed with capacitors.


#129618 - 07/12/05 11:43 PM Re: Harmonics Again  
sierra electrician  Offline
Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 219
North Fork, CA USA
>Secondly, we are dealing with AC. While all electricity is invisible-

I've seen it John I swear to god.

Rob



Member Spotlight
sparky66wv
sparky66wv
West Virginia
Posts: 2,236
Joined: November 2000
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.056s Queries: 14 (0.047s) Memory: 0.7523 MB (Peak: 0.8752 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-07-26 12:39:20 UTC