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#122673 - 01/02/06 01:56 PM A Few Panels  
iwire  Offline
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Here are some pictures of some panels I have installed recently.

I offer them here to be dissected to bits by the members here.

Don't worry I can take it. [Linked Image]

Click the photos for larger and higher resolution photos.

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Bob


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#122674 - 01/02/06 02:18 PM Re: A Few Panels  
Rewired  Offline
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VERY NICE!!! Square -D too I like!~!!!
Only thing that would raise a bit of concern up here is the black being used and I.D. as "green" and "white".. No big deal though. ( inspectors are finiky here, they have a weird fasination with green and white wire).. [Linked Image] I know you don't need them here, and I am not being picky by any means whatsoever , but even when not required I like to throw on a few plastic bushings on the ends of the connectors, just for a bit of added protection and "decoration" (more so the big ones, not so much for the smaller conduits unless its required or spec'd).

A.D

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#122675 - 01/02/06 02:32 PM Re: A Few Panels  
iwire  Offline
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Thanks. [Linked Image]

In all three panels the black re-marked white is larger than 6 AWG so unless there is a local amendment it must be accepted per 200.6(B).

The EGC in pictures 1 and 2 are also larger than 6 AWG so they must also be accepted per 250.119(A).

However the EGC in picture 3 is 8 AWG and is therefore in violation of 250.119.

Not much of an excuse other than the customers representative (an electrician himself) supplied the material.


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts

#122676 - 01/02/06 02:34 PM Re: A Few Panels  
iwire  Offline
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and I am not being picky by any means whatsoever


No! [Linked Image]

Be picky, rip it up, have fun. [Linked Image]

I would never post a picture of electric work here and expect people not to be picky.

Bob


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts

#122677 - 01/02/06 04:34 PM Re: A Few Panels  
Celtic  Offline
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I offer them here to be dissected to bits by the members here.

The panels in pix #1 and #3 aren't plumb...j/k [Linked Image]

Seriously though, why is the panel in #3 bottom feed from a top feeder?
Couldn't the guts just have been flipped? There appears to be more than enough room for bending radii (as there usually is with Square D QOB panels), if that was the issue.

EDIT: New year and I still can't spell

[This message has been edited by Celtic (edited 01-02-2006).]


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#122678 - 01/02/06 05:46 PM Re: A Few Panels  
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Holden, MA USA
Well know we know why they call you hack, diy, wannabe, scab, etc over at the other forum. [Linked Image]

Nice job. [Linked Image]


#122679 - 01/02/06 06:04 PM Re: A Few Panels  
iwire  Offline
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Thanks gentlemen.

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Seriously though, why is the panel in #3 bottom feed from a top feeder?


Good question.

Yes the guts can be flipped as where the ones above.

The feeder raceway had to come in at the extreme corner. With the feeder on the side I felt going bottom feed was better.

The reason is any additional KOs will need to be drilled into the top, by bottom feeding the feeders are nowhere near the 'drilling zone'. This comes from the service guy in me.

Normally my preference would be as the top two panels are (center top feed) which also keeps the feeders away from future work.

Bob


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts

#122680 - 01/02/06 07:41 PM Re: A Few Panels  
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I also really like how you have all the conduits run down and on Uni-strut!!! like I said before VERY NICE.. Work of art it is! Then again, electrical IS an art is it not?

About that re-colour coding though: thats where Canadian codes and American code differs a bit I guess.. I don't think we are allowed to re-code anything smaller than #2??? Something like that anyway, at least on services. I will have to research that more! Meh, no biggie though , it all works and is SAFE!!

A.D

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#122681 - 01/02/06 09:44 PM Re: A Few Panels  
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You could have spent more time making 90s in the wire where it goes into the breaker [Linked Image].


#122682 - 01/02/06 10:20 PM Re: A Few Panels  
PCBelarge  Offline
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Dobbs Ferry, NY, USA
Actually there has been research that shows the conductors are better off not being squared off as they make bends. The sweeps as Bob has installed are a very good job.

Bob
You have performed work to make our industry proud. Re-identifying conductors is common practice in our industry.

The only thing I would comment on is the tyrapping of the conductors. I used to do that, but stopped a while ago.
Isn't it great to be able to do such good work?


Pierre Belarge

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