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#119260 - 12/13/04 09:05 PM Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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You never know what you might come across.
I wouldn't want to be some poor soul on the other end of this. Don't take anything for granted.

Submitted by NORCAL


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#119261 - 12/13/04 09:33 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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His business card is in the bottom of the panel, but we must protect the identity of the guilty as well as the innocent [Linked Image], another thing that is a problem is a lack of circuit directories in the panels.


#119262 - 12/13/04 09:59 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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I like the old saying, "The names are not changed (or are posted in this case) because God protects the innocent" [Linked Image]

Roger


#119263 - 12/14/04 01:20 AM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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OUCH!!!

Do we see at least two breakers with green wires tapped off them???

Hopefully they are re-identified at the other end?!?!?!

DIY'er? Or, colorblind person did the wiring?

"Green only as grounding conductor"-what is the code article? 310.12 Conductor Identification (C) Ungrounded Conductors? ("...shall be... clearly distinguishable from grounded and grounding conductors.")


#119264 - 12/14/04 01:57 AM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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I only saw the panel end of that circuit it was done by a GC during a remuddling.


#119265 - 12/14/04 09:40 AM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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Rollie,
There's not a lot of space between the breaker terminals and the Neutral Busbar.
Mind you, this picture just proves that those that usually use hammers, shouldn't use screwdrivers. [Linked Image]


Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

#119266 - 12/14/04 03:47 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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Why must we protect the identity of the guilty? As a homeowner, I'd like to know who NOT to call. I say post the business card- how else will things change?


#119267 - 12/14/04 09:50 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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I do not think the webmaster would look to kindly to doing that.


#119268 - 12/14/04 09:54 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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chimo,
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I say post the business card- how else will things change?

Oh things would change alright!, for the worst. [Linked Image]
There's all sorts of legal ramifications to doing a thing like that.


Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

#119269 - 12/15/04 06:38 PM Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes  
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Here's another pic from NORCAL showing the path to even get to this panel.


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