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Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119260
12/13/04 08:05 PM
12/13/04 08:05 PM
electure  Offline
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You never know what you might come across.
I wouldn't want to be some poor soul on the other end of this. Don't take anything for granted.

Submitted by NORCAL


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Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119261
12/13/04 08:33 PM
12/13/04 08:33 PM
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NORCAL  Offline
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His business card is in the bottom of the panel, but we must protect the identity of the guilty as well as the innocent [Linked Image], another thing that is a problem is a lack of circuit directories in the panels.

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119262
12/13/04 08:59 PM
12/13/04 08:59 PM
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Roger  Offline
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I like the old saying, "The names are not changed (or are posted in this case) because God protects the innocent" [Linked Image]

Roger

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119263
12/14/04 12:20 AM
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OUCH!!!

Do we see at least two breakers with green wires tapped off them???

Hopefully they are re-identified at the other end?!?!?!

DIY'er? Or, colorblind person did the wiring?

"Green only as grounding conductor"-what is the code article? 310.12 Conductor Identification (C) Ungrounded Conductors? ("...shall be... clearly distinguishable from grounded and grounding conductors.")

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119264
12/14/04 12:57 AM
12/14/04 12:57 AM
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I only saw the panel end of that circuit it was done by a GC during a remuddling.

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119265
12/14/04 08:40 AM
12/14/04 08:40 AM
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Rollie,
There's not a lot of space between the breaker terminals and the Neutral Busbar.
Mind you, this picture just proves that those that usually use hammers, shouldn't use screwdrivers. [Linked Image]

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119266
12/14/04 02:47 PM
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Why must we protect the identity of the guilty? As a homeowner, I'd like to know who NOT to call. I say post the business card- how else will things change?

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119267
12/14/04 08:50 PM
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NORCAL  Offline
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I do not think the webmaster would look to kindly to doing that.

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119268
12/14/04 08:54 PM
12/14/04 08:54 PM
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chimo,
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I say post the business card- how else will things change?

Oh things would change alright!, for the worst. [Linked Image]
There's all sorts of legal ramifications to doing a thing like that.

Re: Test Everything - Always - Every Time - Yes #119269
12/15/04 05:38 PM
12/15/04 05:38 PM
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Here's another pic from NORCAL showing the path to even get to this panel.


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