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Is this legal? #117918
07/18/04 09:49 PM
07/18/04 09:49 PM
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This is an outlet installed in the side of a bathroom sink cabinet... I was always told this was not allowed...

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Re: Is this legal? #117919
07/18/04 10:46 PM
07/18/04 10:46 PM
ElectricAL  Offline
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Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA
2002 NEC
210.52 Dwelling Unit Receptacle Outlets.
(D) Bathrooms.
In dwelling units, at least one wall receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 900 mm (3 ft) of the outside edge of each basin. The receptacle outlet shall be located on a wall or partition that is adjacent to the basin or basin countertop.

I'd take the fixed cabinet side wall as a partition.

Al Hildenbrand
Re: Is this legal? #117920
07/19/04 01:25 AM
07/19/04 01:25 AM
Lostazhell  Offline
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Posts: 1,431
Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
Curious thing here.... I was written up under 110.11 once for doing this..

Another curious thing,
I'm reading in the 2002 NEC Handbook in the commentary below 210.52(D),(bottom of page 91) It states:
"See 410.57(D), which prohibits installation of a receptacle inside bathtub & shower spaces."

Where the devil is 410.57???? [Linked Image]
This codebook goes from 410.54 & jumps to 410.64! I'd think it would be referring to 410.4(D), but nothing regarding receptacles is mentioned here! Anyone have any ideas?


BTW, this outlet pictured was added by an electrician for the original builder as a "side job" after the fact. It's within 3' of the bathtub/shower also.. But my original understanding was this outlet was not allowed to be "below" the counter where if the sink overflowed, it could become wet.

Re: Is this legal? #117921
07/19/04 04:34 AM
07/19/04 04:34 AM
sparky  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,344
if this is in 'addition to' code requirements, and outside 3', what is any different than an appliance garage rec. ??


Re: Is this legal? #117922
07/19/04 06:44 AM
07/19/04 06:44 AM
cpal  Offline
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 162
Cohasset MA
If this receptacle is installed to conform to the requirements of 210.52 (D) the language would compel the location to be in a wall or partition. If the base cabinet is the only structural location within the 36" the AHJ could evoke 90.4.

Re: Is this legal? #117923
07/19/04 07:07 AM
07/19/04 07:07 AM
Joe Tedesco  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,749
Boston, Massachusetts USA

410 Part L deleted and now Article 406

See 406.8 Receptacles in Damp or Wet Locations.

Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Is this legal? #117924
07/19/04 08:50 PM
07/19/04 08:50 PM
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Joined: Jun 2004
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I install many #'s inside the bath cabinet,or drawer.For hair dryers,curling irons,ect... If that plug was reversed,Would that be code?

Re: Is this legal? #117925
07/20/04 12:06 AM
07/20/04 12:06 AM
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Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
There is another outlet above the sink, out of the picture on the wall to the left....


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