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Burnt QO Panel #117297
06/04/04 07:06 PM
06/04/04 07:06 PM
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I don't come across these too often... A breaker caught fire in a Square D QO panel... I think either the breaker came loose from the contact & sat there & arc'd or some sort of internal malfunction caused excessive heat & the contact expanded & arc'd after coming loose from this .... BTW.. This is from the Nevada desert.. 117°F when I changed this out & this breaker fed the A/C condensor.. RLA 30.1A 240V #6AWG AL conductors for the condensor, 50A 2P breaker... Condensor listed max OCPD as 60A... Also noted was some outdoor outlets that seemed to be lacking a couple things...

-Randy
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Re: Burnt QO Panel #117298
06/04/04 07:08 PM
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The light fixtures are from the entry to a mobile home park next to a gas station I stopped at about 10 miles away from there!

-Randy
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Re: Burnt QO Panel #117299
06/05/04 09:11 AM
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Randy, so you travel to Nevada too as well as all of California? That's quite a coverage area!!! [Linked Image]

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Re: Burnt QO Panel #117300
06/05/04 04:58 PM
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[quizno electrician] A Square D sub with extra amperage... Mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm... toasty! [/quizno electrician]

Re: Burnt QO Panel #117301
06/05/04 05:49 PM
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The last pic explains it all. [www.electrical-contractor.net/Forum/Images/Pic192.JPG ]

Randy — I believe you may have been a week early or a week late for the annual Gammanorbulon Festival. “Toroidal-Glass Tubing Embedded with Rare-Earth Phosphors” was the sanctioned theme this year. {You got a great picture of their sacred shrine.} Although no intergalactic craft were seen landing, many attendees reported observing their distant signals.

[Square-D and others always invoke the Gammanorbulon exclusion clause whenever it happens, and I’ll bet that will be the “official” explanation if you bring the damaged components to their Tier-Zero Tribunal Assemly.]




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Re: Burnt QO Panel #117302
06/05/04 06:30 PM
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Peter,
I went out here as a favor for a friends dad... He covered gas, materials & still made it worthwhile for me in greenbacks [Linked Image] Our company is, in fact, opening shop in Las Vegas next week I believe.. But I hope I don't end up covering that area.. Too easy to lose what it takes a week to make, all in a day! [Linked Image]

LMAO Doug.. thats gonna be stuck in my mind all day now!

Bjarney... I also contemplated alien involvment in the QO's failure, (I wonder if Square D would reference that also [Linked Image] ) As far as the lights, I certainly hope alien electrical code doesnt permit whats seen here! [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

-Randy


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Re: Burnt QO Panel #117303
06/05/04 07:29 PM
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Bjarney, that has to be one of the funniest things I have ever read!! Although not far from the truth, many strange things occur in the Nevada desert.

Randy, the Las Vegas shop will no doubt be much cheaper to operate than the California one. I heard that CA is one of the most expenisve places in the country to run a business. [Linked Image]

Peter


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Re: Burnt QO Panel #117304
06/06/04 06:32 PM
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I think the folks that "installed" that lamp would rather have put up a tiki-torch, but since none were available they figured the the flames caused by electrical faults would have to suffice.... [Linked Image] [Linked Image]

-John

Re: Burnt QO Panel #117305
06/06/04 10:58 PM
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CTw — I think that Nevada and California probably have about the same level of weirdness—it’s just that in CA the weirdness has adapted/deteriorated/evolved to accommodate all the teevee helicopters. Fewer of those in Nevada so less “face time” and media coverage involved.


{Update — Full-motion camera phones with each gas fillup in NV may soon outpace advances in mobile news gathering CA is known for.}




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