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#114475 - 03/30/03 11:42 PM Kitchen Receptacles  
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This 4x4 box was mounted on the end of a wooden box that extended from the attic to an area over an island in a church kitchen. There were 4 hot wires(120V) from 4 different breakers but there were 5 neutral wires from the panel to this box. The EGC was orange from the panel to this box. There was no GFCI protection at all. We removed the whole mess. When the new island is installed we plan to install 2 power poles and run 2 GFCI protected circuits to each pole.


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#114476 - 03/31/03 12:53 AM Re: Kitchen Receptacles  
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Maybe it's one of those high-leg, corner-grounded-delta things...


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#114477 - 03/31/03 10:21 AM Re: Kitchen Receptacles  
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I know that there are times a neutral is shared, and I know that there are times when a neutral is oversized, but what would be the use of an additional neutral? (Was it "borrowed" by another circuit?)

#114478 - 03/31/03 09:25 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacles  
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Straughn, IN 47387
The 5th neutral was parralled with another. It served no explainable purpose other than to be a "spare".

#114479 - 04/01/03 12:02 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacles  
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Norfolk, England
Which way around are these outlets?

The black wires in the foreground look as though they're connected to the side of the receptacle which has silver screws.

#114480 - 04/01/03 01:23 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacles  
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The Ground (where Orange wire is) is on the same side as Neutral on these Receptacles.


#114481 - 04/03/03 09:23 PM Re: Kitchen Receptacles  
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Could a properly constructed drop cord be used to meet receptacle requirements for a kitchen island? Would it have to drop to within 18" of the counter?

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