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#113847 - 10/14/02 10:11 PM Whar's wrong here?  
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Hey guys, I found this ad in a non trade magazine agout Georgia based companies. How many code violations or at least oddities can you spot?

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#113848 - 10/14/02 10:18 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
wire not stapled,old work box used,device installed prior to finish.


#113849 - 10/14/02 11:57 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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Minneapolis, MN USA
The box appears to be mounted flush with the stud, no allowance for the wall covering.


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#113850 - 10/15/02 08:55 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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Alpharetta, GA
Wouldn't you think a manufacturer would make sure they represented the product in a proper way? How do they expect they drywaller to chew up the wires with a rotozip if they've already put in the device? [Linked Image]

#113851 - 10/15/02 09:55 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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No nail plates.
If this is going to remain unfinished
he should of used a metal box with cover.
(I know, not code but it is more robust).
Also did not wrap outlet with tape, again
not a code thing, just a courtesy item.

#113852 - 10/15/02 10:37 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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Why would you wrap a receptacle in a nonmetallic box with tape?


#113853 - 10/15/02 11:56 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
sparky66wv  Offline
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Yeah, Don, I see something black there, upper right corner of the box... But, the noodle terminal screws are still showing?

They only tape the hot side?

I've always felt that bored holes should fall under a similar reg as condiut fill. Say, a minimum 3/4" hole for a 12-2-G NM Cable... Looks like a 9/16" hole, but I guess there are no NEC regs to police this...

Whatcha think?

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#113854 - 10/16/02 10:21 AM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
Trainwire  Offline
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The wire box says 12/2, but the wire in the holes is round, like it is a 12/3.


#113855 - 10/16/02 10:34 AM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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resqcapt19: Why would you wrap a receptacle in a nonmetallic box with tape?

Don, it's just a little extra safety measure. In case the wall plate - for some crazy reason -becomes permanently separated from the outlet box, you don't want exposed terminals where someone could slip and touch them. I always wrap tape around new switches and outlets when I replace an old one.

#113856 - 10/16/02 01:27 PM Re: Whar's wrong here?  
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I was always taught to go that extra inch.
The reasons given to me when I was learning
was safety first. The tape is an extra layer of protection to the uneducated and
the youngsters that have more curiosity than

I was also taught to tape my wirenuts for
the same reasons. The master sparky kept
telling me that safety is a habit. If you
maintain safety habits and something out of
the ordinary comes up, it raises alarm bells
that make you extra cautious. It has saved
my butt more than once.

He also told me it is a "work signature"
where he could tell if someone else altered
his work or he could judge the quality of
someone else's work and judgement.

I am NOT saying that the electricians who
are not doing this are unsafe. What I am
saying is safety is a habit, and shortcuts
can lead to accidents.

When I started working for him, I thought he
was a PITA (first word is pain [Linked Image] )but as
time went by, I grew to respect and admire him.

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