ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Potseal 10
Recent Posts
Old decora style outlets
by Lostazhell. 04/22/17 07:59 PM
Dimmable LED 2x4 lay in fixtures
by gfretwell. 04/22/17 01:14 PM
Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in
by gfretwell. 04/22/17 01:11 PM
How do you find a good employee?
by HotLine1. 04/22/17 10:44 AM
Electrode boilers question
by SteveFehr. 04/21/17 08:32 AM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
234,488 Are you busy
169,150 Re: Forum
162,497 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 62 guests, and 7 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
#111838 - 02/28/07 01:08 AM Triplex Horrors  
Admin  Offline

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,439
submitted by Will, A.K.A. ElviscatX:

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides

#111839 - 02/28/07 01:09 AM Re: Triplex Horrors  
Admin  Offline

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,439
[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

#111840 - 02/28/07 01:45 AM Re: Triplex Horrors  
Elviscat  Offline
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 214
Seattle Washington USA
Pic 1: Bryant panel, notice that the proper feeders are disconnected and two diferent wires are connected, running through the DRYER VENT, story goes, meth heads get their power disconected by POCO, so they steal some wire from a nearby construction site, climb tree, and attach wires to neighbors drop, then run wires across roof, down the side of the building and in through the dryer vent. Fortunately the neighbor saw this and called the fire department.

Pic 2: Same wires cut off, entering via dryer vent on outside of house.

Pic 3: Old range cable, spliced to feed for the garage, note both the open, bare copper splice, and the PVC drain pipe used as a raceway.

Pic 4: outside of building, note that the water pipe is now ABS drain pipe, buried maybe a couple inches deep.

Pic 5: Entering the Garage, now in EMT, with ABS for couplings, note that this enters RIGHT at ground level.

Pic 6: Diferent pic, same feeder.

Pic 7: Same feeder, bad splice in flying box, notice the water damage on the roof.

Pic 8: And here's what it feeds.

Pic 9: General bad wiring, unsuported romex etc.

Pic 10: More plumbing pipe, attached to PE cell. No support of course.

Pic 11: Romex, run outside in wet location, to emt with no protection.

Pic 12: Fortunately cut drop, the triplex will soon have a nice new service, with a new 4-pack meter base, and four new panels (three living units + house panel.) I'll send in pictures of the re-done wiring.

(I may edit some of these, as I didn't take the pictures and I may have mis-recalled some things)

#111841 - 02/28/07 12:58 PM Re: Triplex Horrors  
John Crighton  Offline
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 177
Southern California
Thank you, Will - You've brightened my day considerably.

Nothing I have to do today will be nearly as nasty as having to clean up that mess.

The plumber will be busy, too, I think.

#111842 - 02/28/07 09:33 PM Re: Triplex Horrors  
Lostazhell  Offline
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,429
Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
That whole thing made me dizzy!! Proof that Home Depot needs to place a checkpoint or barrier of some type between the plumbing dept and the electrical dept

#111843 - 03/03/07 04:39 AM Re: Triplex Horrors  
RODALCO  Offline
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 854
Titirangi, Akld, New Zealand
Yeepers what a mess !

You may as well cut off the supply to those lethal non covered panels.

The product of rotation, excitation and flux produces electricty.

#111844 - 03/04/07 07:13 PM Re: Triplex Horrors  
ShockMe77  Offline
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 821
Rahway, New Jersey

#111845 - 03/04/07 07:14 PM Re: Triplex Horrors  
ShockMe77  Offline
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 821
Rahway, New Jersey
Picture #12 is all you need to know about that job.

#111846 - 03/05/07 01:29 AM Re: Triplex Horrors  
KJ  Offline
Junior Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 52
From your position in pic 12,
turn either left or right EXACTLY 90 degrees,stop, then proceed to run like he$$ as far away as you can.............

#111847 - 03/09/07 02:16 PM Re: Triplex Horrors  
Trumpy  Offline

Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,211
SI,New Zealand
Crikey Will!,
What a beauty you've got on your hands there. [Linked Image]
One little question for you fella's in the US, where a cable heads underground out of a building (or even into a building), is it required that a warning sign be fixed to the wall over where the cable exits the building?.
(Sorry I thought that black pipe was a power cable in black PVC} [Linked Image]
Pic No 12 is a real worry, since when do PoCo's start connecting to lines mid-span?.

{BTW Will, not sure if it was you or Bill that numbered the photo's, but it sure makes for easier replies, without having to count the pics from the top. [Linked Image]}

Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Member Spotlight
Posts: 165
Joined: March 2007
Show All Member Profiles 

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.018s Queries: 15 (0.003s) Memory: 0.8204 MB (Peak: 0.9965 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-04-23 17:45:05 UTC