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#107288 - 09/13/04 04:14 PM What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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These were found on a recent job site i was out on to install smoke detectors thru out (good thing!!!!);

a pictue of a service in a row home basement in south jersey. Can you count the violations? The other picture is of the hot water heater in the same job,(the pictue doesn't do it justice the span on that romex is about 4 feet, the other pic is above the drop ceiling in the kitchen open jb's and gotta love that ceiling fan & flying splice support.enjoy

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#107289 - 09/13/04 04:54 PM Re: What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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Wireman: I'm surprised the sewer line and telephone equipment aren't crammed into this same little corner [Linked Image].

On a hot summer day, I guess the EC could set the washing machine to cold water and dangle his feet inside it while he works on the panel [Linked Image].

Incredibly bad mix of utilities and working spaces (or lack thereof).

Mike (mamills)

BTW: What is that black looking thing hanging down from the joists, just above that little sub-panel?

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#107290 - 09/14/04 05:48 PM Re: What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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OK...I'm going to take a stab at this. I can't quote the NEC reference.
#1. Inadequate working clearance in front of equipment likely to be serviced.
#2. 1 laundry recepticle is required and does not need to be GFCI protected. The second duplex needs GFCI protection. If it is protected by a GFCI breaker then it needs to have the yellow tag stating such.
#3. Water pipes occupying the area directly above the service panel.
#4. No bonding jumper at the water meter.
#5 Panel on the side has wires that are not protected.
#6 Inadequate conductor size for the water heater. No protection also. It looks like 14 gage NM cable.
#7. Flying splices in the drop ceiling.
#8. No covers on the boxes.
#9. Too many conductors in the romex connector at the jbox.
#10. Cover screw missing from the loadcenter.

#11. Nutdriver left on the washing machine.(OK, Just kidding)

Wow, now i'm tired.

Blessings and GOD Bless America
Mark Randazzo


#107291 - 09/15/04 09:25 AM Re: What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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Without rotating the water heater so that the power is closer to the wall - how would you properly support the NM? (I'm a telecom guy, not an electrician, so forgive my ignorance if the answer is pretty obvious)

What is holding up the gas meter? That is a gas meter, right?


#107292 - 09/15/04 01:06 PM Re: What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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I believe you would consider it a fixture whip. I would not need to be supported for that short distance. But it has to be protected. i.e. a raceway sleeve.

Blessings and GOD Bless America
Mark Randazzo


#107293 - 10/23/04 09:09 PM Re: What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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My, oh my! Gas and electric so close together. At least if there's a fire, the water will put it out!
:-)>

James


#107294 - 10/24/04 12:04 PM Re: What's Wrong in These Pictures?  
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Ah...I've been looking for my nut driver...there it is. I'll have to go back there and grab it.

Thanks!


Ryan Jackson,
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