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Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104301
01/24/03 07:43 AM
01/24/03 07:43 AM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
[Linked Image]

Does anyone have any information on this "Lundin" or "Store Front" Electric Service Box?

The fuses are behind the cover, and I understand that the Electrical Inspector was issued a "Key" from the Utility Company?

Boston Edison??


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
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Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104302
01/24/03 09:40 AM
01/24/03 09:40 AM
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mamills  Offline
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Wharton, Texas, USA
Very Interesting. I wonder what this may have been used for (service disconnect during a fire, possibly)? You don't have a pic of the inside, do you?

Mike (mamills)

Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104303
01/24/03 03:53 PM
01/24/03 03:53 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Here's what it looks like inside.

[Linked Image]


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104304
01/24/03 04:28 PM
01/24/03 04:28 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Brick, NJ USA
Joe:
Are my eyes failing, or is this two different boxes?
The first pic is a "tall" box in a brick wall with block at the very base.
The second pic is a "wider" box, and it appears to be in a block wall.
The contents appear to be a terminal block of some sort.
John


John
Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104305
01/24/03 04:52 PM
01/24/03 04:52 PM
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lighthouse  Offline
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now there one i never seen.and i seen some oldies.do you remember the old 2 fuse 30 amp rotary disconnect switch with a meter socket.

Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104306
01/24/03 04:56 PM
01/24/03 04:56 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
This is a picture of another box nearby. That is a so called "No Arc" switch, and when the cover was installed and could not be removed with a tool, the firefighter used the AX to break it because it was made of cast metal.


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104307
01/24/03 04:57 PM
01/24/03 04:57 PM
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mamills  Offline
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I think I saw a variety of this a number of years ago when I was in San Antonio TX. They were made by Killark and appeared to be some sort of "interface" box between the POCO and the wiring/equipment supplied by the building owner. Never have seen the inside of one, though. There were various sizes, some large enough to contain fuses, and others which might have contained only lugs. They were surface mounted in all kinds of positions - right side up, sideways, upside down...

Thanks for the pics. [Linked Image]

Mike (mamills)

Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104308
01/24/03 04:58 PM
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Joe, are these seen a lot in Boston? I wouldn't be surprised considering the number of old houses there.

Seems like a good safe way for the power company to disconnect your service for non-payment or if you need to do major work in the building - like replacing a fuse box or something and are like me, too chicken to work on live wires [Linked Image].

I'm still amazed there are gas lamps on the street in some areas of Boston - or at least they still were back in 1996 when I visited. [Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by SvenNYC (edited 01-24-2003).]

Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104309
01/24/03 07:48 PM
01/24/03 07:48 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
Still lots of these storefront boxes in the North End of Boston and as far as Gas Lights, I am not sure if they still use gas or if the lights have been rewired.


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Store Front Emergency Switch Box #104310
01/25/03 06:38 AM
01/25/03 06:38 AM
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iwire  Offline
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North Attleboro, MA USA
In Brookline, MA while doing an apartment building renovation I had to retrofit one of these boxes with a button to trip a shunt trip main.

This was about 1984-5, if I remember it was per the fire dept.


Bob Badger
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