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#103758 - 11/21/02 02:53 PM Fixture Supports in Suspended Ceilings  
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#103759 - 11/23/02 02:00 AM Re: Fixture Supports in Suspended Ceilings  
Jacuzzi Guy Electric  Offline
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Dearborn Heights Michigan Unit...
Shouldn't those be attached to the ceiling, by a chain? Or are they just sitting on top of the drop ceiling?

They look mighty heavy for that weak drop ceiling.

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#103760 - 11/23/02 07:37 AM Re: Fixture Supports in Suspended Ceilings  
lwinter31  Offline
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I dont see "any" support wires in this pic.
What are we supposed to rip our shirts on in this ceiling. [Linked Image]

#103761 - 11/23/02 12:57 PM Re: Fixture Supports in Suspended Ceilings  
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York, NE
As a contractor in the midwest, (low earthquake risk), I believe that troffers can be safely supported by the ceiling grid.

The local AHJ requires support wires within 6" of all four corners of the fixture. That requirement varies depending upon the area, state or local inspection.

I haven't seen a new troffer without built-in grid clips for about five years.


#103762 - 11/26/02 09:28 PM Re: Fixture Supports in Suspended Ceilings  
John Steinke  Offline
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Reno,Nv., USA
Here's where architects earn their keep. A check of the appropriate UL directories will show numerous fire-rated suspended ceilings, where the ceiling grid supports the troffers. That means that, even after a fire test, the troffers remained in the grid- even if the grid was warped and twisted like a pretzel. Remember the words "according to the manufacturers' instructions."
The UL tests do not take into account earthquake requirements- only fire.

#103763 - 11/26/02 09:40 PM Re: Fixture Supports in Suspended Ceilings  
HotLine1  Online Content

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Brick, NJ USA
For what it's worth...
We install drop wires for the troffers, usually get the ceiling contractor to install "extras" for the fixtures, and any cabling that requires support.
The fixtures get a drop wire on each corner, and dependent on the local AHJ, some locations get "screwed/clipped" to the grid...some don't. The drop wire we use for cabling support gets a Caddy "yellow placement clip" to "secure" the drop wire to the grid.
When ductwork gets in the way, we improvise as needed, EMT trapeeze, etc., etc. Hell we've been known to use a tin knockers support strap a few times.


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