Great one, Joe. I wish I had a camera but I was a bit 'busy' that day.....We had one of our institutions trip out, which of course started a panic. I went to the substation..where it went from 12.5 to 4,160, and isolated the shorted circuit, by then I was joined by 3 other guys. When I saw which circuit was out, it was a quick deduction.
The institution had been wired around the turn of the century, it was the standard to put pole transformers in a vault, there was only one of these originals still left, and that was the circuit. The sump pump had failed and the vault was full of water. That was a 15 X 15 room, 10' high with about a 6' collar.
The entire thing was still boiling when we opened the manhole lid, but hey, didn't take long to dry once we pumped it
Re: Boiling Water at Sign Raceway#103145 05/02/0211:49 AM05/02/0211:49 AM
Joe: Hate to ask what is probably a stupid question, but...is the water boiling because of a fault in this poor installation? (I guess it makes sense, though; if a fault can get hot enough to start a fire, it can get hot enough to boil water, as in George's case)
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Re: Boiling Water at Sign Raceway#103146 05/02/0211:56 AM05/02/0211:56 AM
Water boils in this type of thing because it is conducting electricity. I think we can assume faulty splice in the case of the pic. Maybe simply made with wirenuts and not approved for underground/underwater use. Faulty, maybe not, improper, definitely.
Re: Boiling Water at Sign Raceway#103147 05/19/0204:15 PM05/19/0204:15 PM
Well, it's not exctly boiling if the water is exposed to electricity. It's electrolysis. it is being divided into hydrogen and oxygen, or if there's other things in the water, the products are different.
Re: Boiling Water at Sign Raceway#103148 05/19/0207:46 PM05/19/0207:46 PM
Would you actually get electrolysis (with "boiling" production of gases) with an AC current? Every demonstration of the process that I have seen uses a DC current. I would think that the chemical reaction would reverse itself 120 times per second, with the generated H2 and O2 recombining rather than building up at the electrodes as they do with DC.
Re: Boiling Water at Sign Raceway#103149 02/18/0309:00 AM02/18/0309:00 AM
Water (ok, not pure water) is conductive due to dissolved materials. Apply a potential through it and it will heat up. I remember vaporizers (humidifiers) that worked that way - the linecord terminated in two rods that were immersed in the water. Add just enough salt to reduce the resistance and it would boil.
Re: Boiling Water at Sign Raceway#103151 02/19/0312:25 AM02/19/0312:25 AM
also as long the device is not sealed it can relase the vapor from the source.
if it was in sealed box or device it will blow the gasket out or go thru back to the power source where the breaker or fuse box is located.
myself i did see one of the device did boil the water pretty good later i learn that the ground wire and neutral wire was pretty corroded and cause all the water in the box vaperized and see the box inside all green
oh yeah one more thing that the boiling water can burn your hand if you dont look out !!!!
Pas de problme,il marche n'est-ce pas?"(No problem, it works doesn't it?)