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low volt undercabit light #101444
03/20/07 07:55 AM
03/20/07 07:55 AM
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tomselectrc  Offline OP
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Got rejected the other day for useing t-stat class 2 wire. does anyone know where i can find this in the code. this was a residental home wires ran through wood studs thanks

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Re: low volt undercabit light #101445
03/20/07 08:20 AM
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Jim M  Offline
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The requirement is for a Class 3 wiring method in the wall. Article 411.4, 2002 Ed.

Re: low volt undercabit light #101446
03/20/07 09:29 AM
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tomselectrc  Offline OP
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725.61 e (4) says i can use in single family dewling? type CL2 wire is what im useing

Re: low volt undercabit light #101447
03/20/07 09:36 AM
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George Little  Offline
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2002 NEC Article 411 Section 411.4 Says you must use the wiring methods of Chapter 3 and CL2 wiring is in Chapter 7. This changes in the '05 a little bit but not completely.


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Re: low volt undercabit light #101448
03/20/07 10:25 AM
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Read the FPN in Art. 725. " The circuits described hereinare charecterized by usage and electrical power limitations that differtiate them from electric light and power circuit;

You are using the wrong Article. Article 411 is Lighting Systems operating at 30 volt or less.

PS did you even consider the voltage drop using wiring that small? Most LV undercabinet lighting uses 10 Ga.

Re: low volt undercabit light #101449
03/20/07 02:50 PM
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tomselectrc  Offline OP
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thanks for the info guys

Re: low volt undercabit light #101450
03/20/07 03:21 PM
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You are using the wrong Article. Article 411 is Lighting Systems operating at 30 volt or less.
Jim- Who are you saying is wrong?


George Little
Re: low volt undercabit light #101451
03/20/07 04:02 PM
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George, I was referring to Tom. Sorry for the confusion.

Re: low volt undercabit light #101452
03/20/07 04:13 PM
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just a quick comment,12 volt lighting system would'nt that fall under 411


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