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Posted By: Trumpy Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/16/04 02:58 AM
Hi there guys,
I just found this site while surfing for some info on Earthing.
It's right here .
Check it out, if you'd like a laugh!. [Linked Image]

{Oops, got that link wrong!}

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/16/04 07:47 AM
The more I read of the articles on this site, the wierder things seem to be getting.
Check this one out!.
Strange
Posted By: pauluk Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/16/04 02:41 PM
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As an electrician friend of mine described it "excess power is put into the ground rather than returning it to the national grid (via the negative cable)".
Bzzzz. WRONG! You lose 10 points!

I didn't know you still had DC supplies down there either. [Linked Image]

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Most equipment made in Asia has twin flex and no earth. By adding a separate earth wire (soldered for example to the outside lug of an RCA plug) we get a significant improvement in sound.
Well, it can help reduce hum and other interference, so we're getting somewhere now.

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The earth cable is directional so try it both ways (take a walk on the wild side). Cable that is directioned correctly will sound ‘faster’... ignore all other aspects.
Oh dear. Now he's gone and spoiled it. [Linked Image]

I wonder where can I buy some of that fast cable? [Linked Image]
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/16/04 05:56 PM
How does wire "sound faster"?

And i've never heard of wire being "one way".

If that were the case, it would be impossible to back-feed an extension cord from the female end! [Linked Image]

Audio-tom-foolery.
Posted By: uksparky Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/16/04 08:11 PM
Oooohhh....what a strange, strange place....
I see colours...like washes of pink and blue and gold...I see big circles of light moving across the sky.....all the colours of the rainbow....big bold blues and whites now...the light seems to be getting brighter... I hear eerie noises....like...like ghosts all mumuring softly....no... No! WAIT!! It's....it's more than that even! It's an electrician...but I con't....quite....hear.....he's saying something like.....

..wait.....shhhhh.......Oh! [Linked Image] he's saying "I ******* told you so!!!"

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So here we go kiddies... and remember all work needs checking with an electrician.

Oh..so that's it!! [Linked Image]

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Posted By: pauluk Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/16/04 10:57 PM
Here's the clincher:

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Allow up to 5 weeks for the sound to keep improving.

Yeah right. This is a pyschological trick. Wait several weeks and try to convince yourself that it sounds better now than it did before. [Linked Image]
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/17/04 02:35 PM
It might sound even better with a few shots of 190 proof grain alcohol.
Posted By: djk Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/17/04 02:37 PM
Loads of people will be taken-in by that kind of rubbish though.

Gold plated power cables and other nonsence.

Earthing a sound system by hooking an earth rod up to the side of an RCA port would possibily just introduce interference.

Btw.. speaking of earthing...

I noticed in the USA that many appliences that would be earthed in Europe wern't over there.

E.g. Irons, toasters etc... all seemed to have 2 pin moulded plugs.

Seems unusual for appliences with large metal surfaces.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/20/04 09:52 PM
Someone had to say it I suppose:
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You certainly have gone to some trouble to raise your cables off the floor, with a creation of wood and nylon. I don’t think that in itself makes you crazy. To put it another way if the product was marketable, then you would simply be part of a boutique industry that seems to make quite a lot of money out of those of us who seek the Holy Grail of perfect sound. People who do not seek this Holy Grail think we are crazy in the sense of being odd, obsessional and some kind of geek.
Thank God this guy is only a Psychologist, and not an electronics salesman,
I'd hate to buy Audio gear at his store. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Sir Arcsalot Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/20/04 10:02 PM
And, of course, audio gear sounds MUCH better when plugged into those "hospital grade" receptacles; maybe if one is under ethyl ether anaesthetic!!!
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/20/04 10:43 PM
Well of course the hi-fi sounds better when plugged into a hospital grade socket.

You don't have the problem of the plug falling out of the socket every so often. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Sir Arcsalot Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/20/04 11:09 PM
I remember reading some years ago in one of the "audiophile" magazines where they did a blind cabling test on some "experts" in the field. It was HILARIOUS! Good ol' zip cord sounded better than 750 KC mil ultra-low-oxygen $$$$$.$$/foot audio-grade speaker cable! I still crack up laughing when I think about that article!

Edited for typos.

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Posted By: pauluk Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/21/04 10:38 PM
There is only one way I can think of in which laying the speaker cables on the floor would have an effect on the sound. That's if the floor were metal, as you'd then have extra capacitance on the speaker line, which could attenuate the higher frequencies.

H-O-W-E-V-E-R....

You'd need many, many yards of cable laying on said metal floor to achieve any sort of capacitance value high enough to have any noticeable effect.

Two plates an inch square spaced 1 mil apart with an air dielectric result in a capacitance of around 225 picofarads. I'm not going to bother to work out what the capacitance would be on a typical run of a few yards, but it would certainly not be high enough to be of any significance when driven by the low-impedance output of the amplifier.

All of which is academic for those with normal wooden floors anyway. [Linked Image]
Posted By: uksparky Re: Hmm......Psychobabble! - 11/23/04 12:23 AM
LOL @ Paul....again! [Linked Image]

I do use OFC cables on my system, and there was a noticeable improvement in the bottom end. My brother changed them without my knowing and I commented on it some days later as I had to consistently reduce the bass settings on the amp.

I listen to a lot of organ music ( don't laugh [Linked Image] ) which is notorious for reproductive problems ( continue not to laugh ) especially at the lower end... ( ok now you can laugh )

I now have a set of OFC cables... How would your obvious knowledge of such things explain the presence of oxygen to affect conductive properties, or is it just an 'impurity'?
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