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Posted By: pauluk DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 12:39 PM
This isn't electrical, but nevertheless provides a good illustration of why some people should not attempt any DIY!
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Tony Leeming of Canvey Island in Sept 99 burned down not just his own home but nine others into the bargain.

He was trying to strip paint from his floorboards with a blowtorch.

With disarming frankness he explained: "I am not a DIY expert", after 60 firemen were called out to fight the blaze in the row of terraced houses.

"Somehow flames got under the boards and started a fire. I never meant to cause all this grief."
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 01:05 PM
WOW !!

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Posted By: SvenNYC Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 02:41 PM
Uhh....don't most people use an electric HEAT GUN and a spatula for this sort of thing?

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 08:11 PM
That's a good one Paul!. [Linked Image]
Lots of people have been caught out like that over here.
What can happen is, birds build nests in the space between floors or up in the roof void and fill the place up with straw and it's normally this that starts the fire.
60 Firemen?, must have been a big blaze!.
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With disarming frankness he explained: "I am not a DIY expert", after 60 firemen were called out to fight the blaze in the row of terraced houses.
The guy is not wrong there.
Paul, I thought that terraced houses by law had to have a Fire Rated Party wall between them?.
Posted By: PaulCornwall Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 09:11 PM
Hey theres plenty of them about.. a chap where i used to live had to have his house under-pinned,, but thought he would to it him self..

as far as i am aware you carry this out at a meter at a time..

he dug up the lenght of his gable wall, then went to bed..

you've gussed it,, the side of his house fell down.. LOL!!

i mean what gets in some ones head to do that??????
Posted By: pauluk Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 09:49 PM
That reminds me of an incident on one of the many (too many) DIY shows from a while back.

Some guy decided to dig out the ground under his floor to create extra living space in the form of a basement.

Yeah, you guessed it.... The supporting walls going down to the foundations just collapsed inward under the pressure and brought the whole house down, along with half of the adjoining one!
Posted By: ThinkGood Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 09:51 PM
Heat from a torch can build up in non-obvious ways.

In a nearby city here, there was a would-be DIY plumber who recently lost his house to fire. The heat from his blow-torch cooked some wood such that it smoldered overnight.
Posted By: pauluk Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 09:52 PM
Mike,
Yes, I think there are building regulations about party fire walls, fire stops in the attics of semi-detached shared houses (duplexes), and so on.

It's possible these were very old row houses without any such firebreaks.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: DIY Disaster - 09/12/03 10:08 PM
Paul,
How would you feel, knowing that you had burnt down most of the houses in your street?, and for the sake of a bit of paint.
A local firefighter, that I know well, nearly lost his house to fire last year, for one of the dumbest, stupidest things.
He had been sanding down his newly lined and stopped walls and had the vacuum cleaner hooked up to the sander to minimise the dust spread, anyhow, as we all know, v/cleaners get very hot after they've been run for a few hours, non-stop and he just put it back in the cupboard and went to bed,
we had the fire under control by 0300, luckily the family escaped unhurt, but it wrecked the house (including the new walls).
Silly boy!.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: DIY Disaster - 09/21/03 01:08 AM
NEWSFLASH!!.
A guy over here had his house blown to smithereens after he decided to install his own LPG cooker.
Luckily no-one was home at the time of the explosion, but I am told by one of the FF's that attended the ensuing fire, there are still bits of timber stuck in the rooves of the houses next door to the house!.
Posted By: lyledunn Re: DIY Disaster - 09/21/03 09:28 AM
It is not always the plodding diyer who is at fault. Some years ago, here in the North of Ireland, a plumber left his blow torch going and unattended above the suspended ceiling of a large, newly built shopping centre. Even with all the modern fire protection systems he succeded in razing the place to the ground.
This single incident was central to the call for increased liability indemnity in the UK. The firm he worked for dilligently carried one million pound cover. Unfortunately, the damage bill was well in excess of that!
Posted By: pauluk Re: DIY Disaster - 09/21/03 11:54 AM
The indemnity angle certainly raises some anomolies when it comes to insurance.

As most people in Britain will be aware, mandatory automotive insurance here provides for unlimited indemnity to third parties, whereas in the U.S. and many other countries you buy cover to whatever level you want (subject to a legal minimum -- I believe as low as $20,000 in some states).

So in Britain and most of Europe, if you crashed your van into the building and started a fire which razed it to the ground, you'd be covered for the whole amount, unlike the worker that Lyle mentioned with his £1 million cover.

Inconsistent? You bet!
Posted By: Trumpy Re: DIY Disaster - 09/21/03 12:07 PM
Oh dear Lyle,
That doesn't sound too good, but things like this CAN and DO happen, I had a situation a few years ago, where I burnt a good sized hole in a customers carpet with a soldering iron, I went out to the van to get a few connectors and was talking to the nieghbour, meanwhile the iron had slipped offthe top of the wirestrippers that I had sat it on(the flex was all twisted up).
Brand new carpet too and out in the middle of the room.
Never going to be that stupid again!!. [Linked Image]
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