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Posted By: electure Gorgeous Service - 06/11/05 12:19 PM
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What do you think about these?

NORCAL


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Posted By: screwi Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/11/05 02:43 PM
How is that fasened to the wall? - it looks as if the top cable supports it
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/11/05 03:45 PM
I dont know how it is fastened,there are more pictures to go w/ this.
Posted By: screwi Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/11/05 10:01 PM
Its David copperfield at work!!!
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/11/05 10:23 PM
With his floating neutral!
Alan
Posted By: mxslick Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/12/05 05:01 AM
Am I imagining things or do I see three services to a residential building?!?

And what POCO in their right mind would have set the meter in that second pic? (Notice the nice new lockring and seal.)
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/12/05 07:07 AM
Its not a resi. building, its a former 2 room church school,the POCO is PG&E.
Posted By: electure Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/12/05 12:00 PM
More from NORCAL

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Here is another one, the #2 AL going to the 50 A 2 pole C/B are coming into the panel through 1/2" romex connectors


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Posted By: John Crighton Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/12/05 04:15 PM
And they continue on through knobs and tubes, eh?

In the upper of these two photos, there's a loose romex at the left. I'd hate to see that bare ground get bumped over onto the bus bars.
Posted By: CTwireman Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/12/05 05:29 PM
Why was Zinsco so popular in California (and other western states???) Was there a manufacturing facility there?

I have never seen a piece of Zinsco equipment here in the northeast. (thankfully!)

Peter
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/12/05 06:55 PM
Do my old eyes decieve me, or has someone snipped some of the wires, ( red/black) in pic 4 in order to get them to fit?
Alan
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/13/05 02:34 AM
If you look at a old (pre GTE Sylvania)Zinsco,it will say "Zinsco Electrical Products Los Angeles Calif."and one of those really old clay pigeon substitutes,will say "Magnetrip".

P.S. I suspect they had more national distribution after GTE bought them in the 1970s. They were very popular in apartment buildings,trailers and other structures wired by bottom feeders. [Linked Image]
Posted By: mamills Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/13/05 05:15 PM
Kinda ironic...using the term "bottom feeders" when referring to Zinsco. [Linked Image]

Mike (mamills)
Posted By: NJwirenut Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/14/05 12:16 AM
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I have never seen a piece of Zinsco equipment here in the northeast. (thankfully!)

Unfortunately, this is compensated for by all the FPE panels we have around here.... [Linked Image]
Posted By: sierra electrician Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/14/05 12:57 AM
The best thing about that Zinsco Panel is: The plaster job that surrounds it. This guy cared enough to insatll metal chanel around it so he wouldnt' plaster the door shut with the new finish depth.

Rob
Posted By: electure Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/14/05 02:22 AM
So, what would have been the good choice for a panel like this in the '60s?

Remember. at that time they didn't know what we know now about these problems.

And I'm no carp/fan of Zinsco or FPE, either [Linked Image]
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/14/05 04:28 AM
Best service in the 1960-70s IMO would be I-T-E,Cutler-Hammer,and SQ D*.


* Around here SQ D would be a BAD choice since no local support, [Linked Image] but their resi. equipment was well built.
Posted By: electure Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/15/05 11:02 AM
Cutler Hammer would have been a non-choice in the '60s.
The type CH/CHB breakers weren't introduced until about '72 or '73 [Linked Image] Even then, they were considered by many as too new to be trusted.

Sort of narrows down the field, huh?
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/15/05 01:03 PM
The "CH" was introduced in the late 50's, the time the "CHB" came on the market I dunno.
Posted By: electure Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/16/05 11:12 AM
http://www.cutler-hammer.eaton.com/unsecure/cms1/TB01400002E.PDF
Posted By: techie Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/16/05 11:32 PM
How about Murray?
Posted By: NORCAL Re: Gorgeous Service - 06/17/05 12:18 AM
That panel is a Murray in the 2nd pic. [Linked Image]
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