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Posted By: Admin Fan-Light? - 07/11/03 02:44 PM
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how to add outdoor lights using the only avaliable opening, through a fan housing!

Rick Miell
(No, not really!!)
Posted By: ThinkGood Re: Fan-Light? - 07/11/03 03:23 PM
Self-drying, Self-cooling...perfect for those rainy days or those hot nights...
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Fan-Light? - 07/11/03 03:56 PM
Are they using the metal bases for those ceiling globe light fixtures?

That's what they look like. You can buy them separately and fit whatever globe or shade fits your fancy.

The fixture directly over the grill looks like it was cobbled together by screwing in a two-bulb holder adapter and then the two bulbs.

That's another device not rated for outdoor use I believe. It'll get cooked by the sun!!! [Linked Image]

It also looks like they're running the wires through white garden hose!!!

Where was this picture taken? Judging from the wall it looks like somewhere in the south-west or California....
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Fan-Light? - 07/11/03 11:52 PM
Sven,
I think that the pipe there, is PB plumbing pipe, that's been painted over.
The person that installed this mess wasn't hanging around, I'd at least have fitted a few more saddles to the pipe, to make sure it was nice and straight!.(If my work standard WAS this rough!)
Are these fittings legal, for this type of use?, I note that you said that they are used as ceiling fixtures.(Indoors, I assume)
One more thing, them lamps are pointing pretty much up in the air, OK if you want to light the sky up.
Posted By: electure Re: Fan-Light? - 07/13/03 12:11 AM
Rick, This opening is outside?
Isn't there something wrong even before they begin to think about the electrical?
Posted By: rmiell Re: Fan-Light? - 07/13/03 12:19 AM
I found this setup on the building next door to an outside patio in Denver, Colorado. I just had to have another beer when I saw it!!

Rick
Posted By: Bjarney Re: Fan-Light? - 07/13/03 01:16 AM
Could be that the only way to get the lamps to work for more that ½ a seconds was to turn on the "cooling fan". The ace wannabe never realized that he’d scabbed them into the 240V range circuit. [The fatter wire—the better, right?]
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Fan-Light? - 07/13/03 03:25 AM
Rick,
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I just had to have another beer when I saw it!!
I hear you there, mate!. [Linked Image]
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Fan-Light? - 07/13/03 03:56 AM
TRUMPY SAID:

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Are these fittings legal, for this type of use?, I note that you said that they are used as ceiling fixtures.(Indoors, I assume)

Trumpy,

I personally wouldn't use such a thing outside. The globe ceiling fixtures I'm talking about consist of a stamped & shaped tin base (looks almost like a little casserole dish), with a hole punched out for a snap-in lampholder.

Around the business end of the "dish" is a flange with holes for little screws.

A lip from a globe fits into this flange. The screws go into the lip, holding it in place. Nothing really to keep water out should you use this outdoors.

See here:

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Rick, was that fixture the metal "base" of those things I just posted? That's what it looks like from the picture - 'course I can't really zoom in to take a closer look. [Linked Image]

Trumpy, the adapter that allows you to be able to screw two bulbs into one socket is this:

[img]http://images.lowes.com/product/032664/032664491689.jpg?wid=158&cvt=jpeg[/img]


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Posted By: CaOperator Re: Fan-Light? - 07/14/03 06:06 AM
I was thinking they looked more like this light fixture minus the glass and cage. Even then I am pretty sure this type of fixture is not meant to be mounted vertically. We have lots of fixtures like this at the plant, and it would unfortunately be quite possible to put that siamese socket splitter into service (not to mention flood lights).

I would hate to see what is inside the building, if they are that loose with what is so easily seen.
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Fan-Light? - 07/14/03 04:33 PM
CAOperator:

I saw one of those fixtures you mention mouted SIDEWAYS on a sidewalk shed once (the sidewalk shed is used to protect passersby from falling material when the walls of a building are being worked on.

Anyway, I saw the lightbulb was turned on, and it was half submerged in a pool of WATER!!!

The water had filled that glass jar - probably as it trickled down the side of the fixture and seeped in between the edge of the glass and the gasket.

The top of the water was like 1/2 inch away from the edge of the lampholder!!!! [Linked Image]
Posted By: Bjarney Re: Fan-Light? - 07/14/03 07:54 PM
Sven — Don’t pass up a get-rich-quick sure bet! A bag of Lipton’s hung inside the pickle jar and tomorrow you have original new Electro-Brew "lamp" tea.

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Posted By: Trumpy Re: Fan-Light? - 07/19/03 05:09 AM
Bjarney,
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Don’t pass up a get-rich-quick sure bet! A bag of Lipton’s hung inside the pickle jar and tomorrow you have original new Electro-Brew "lamp" tea
It's gotta be a money-spinner, that one!.
Just don't use Herbal tea, them New-Agers don't like EMF's!. [Linked Image]
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