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Posted By: Admin Your Thoughts on This? - 07/30/01 04:21 AM
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Saw this on a bid walk thru. No lites in this old boiler room. Buss feeds 480v 3 phase either 2000 or 4000 amp 1923 frank adams bucket panel.
The local inspectors are discussing this with the owner - but since the building is under a sales negotiation and is currently unoccupied - results will be delayed.

nesparky
Posted By: sparky Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 07/30/01 07:25 AM
It is a very good example of the term "existing"
Posted By: spkjpr Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/05/01 03:20 AM
Run screaming to the truck, slam the door and throw gravel as I speed out of the parking lot?
Posted By: sparky Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/05/01 11:37 AM
the thing is, U will never, ever find parts for this........
Posted By: golf junkie Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/05/01 02:17 PM
****Warning, threadjack in progress******

We replaced a service that looked exactly like this about four years ago for Central Community College, Hastings, NE.

The building was originally constructed as part of a WWII ammunition depot. These building were built from start to finish in something like 30 days!

The service wasn't even the worst part! The building was basically wired with four 100A feeders that ran the length of the attic. Wherever they needed some power they just tapped the 100A feeder. Without any OL protection.

When the remodel was completed they had a new I-line service and subs. All the illegal taps were removed although I think that we left one of the 100A feeders for a sub.

GJ
Posted By: sparky Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/05/01 06:41 PM
golf junkie;
i take it no stray ammo was found?
Posted By: Bear Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/07/01 11:18 PM
I hope you will be able to make a profit!
Posted By: nesparky Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/12/01 09:23 PM
update
owners told local inspectors "we are not going to do any thig with it." inspectors said "ok poco remove service" owners "you can't do that how we going to sell this building?" The argument continues
i am no longer going to do a new tenant finish tenant is broke.
Posted By: aldav53 Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/23/01 12:20 AM
Definitely not a workmanship type manner.
Posted By: electure Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/23/01 12:42 AM
I saw one that looked like this, but was smaller (1200A), and was in mint shape. Pretty neat, really.
This one sure isn't, though. You are fortunate to have an inspector to condemn this piece of explosive junk.
Some of the guys here on the BB have to fight this kind of stuff all on their own, without any backing Whew, must be tough!
Posted By: sparky Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/23/01 01:12 AM
Some of the guys here on the BB have to fight this kind of stuff all on their own, without any backing Whew, must be tough!

that bears repeatin' Scott!

However it must be noted that the integrity of some of these older units are admirable in there hearty constitution. I used the term 'existing' because if it indeed has done so, and is of no life and/or saftey threat let it be. If being antiquated alone rates the round file my ol' lady would have had me shipped off years ago. I would probably shoot my biz in the foot should i publicly advertise this point of view, but who really does the math? 1/2 the service upgrades I do are the call of bank inspectors and/or realtors that simply don't like fuses or 60A services.
Posted By: glenn35 Re: Your Thoughts on This? - 08/24/01 07:01 PM
I saw something similar the other day at a church building. There were several doors that contained fuses behind them. THey were like 200A fuses. I located the bad fuse for the cust but couldn't tell him(other than to hire an electrician) of how to go about replacing it. I saw no way of disconnecting power to this panel. It was 3Ø 4W delta and the only means I could see of replacing the fuses were to deenergize the trans bank. THere were no disconnects at all. The W/H outside fed directly into a CT metering can and from there it went straight to the buss of the panel and then only had fuses. Beat all I had ever seen.
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