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Posted By: wilkie closed threads - 01/20/06 12:06 PM
No likey closed threads . Can anyone second that?
Posted By: mahlere Re: closed threads - 01/20/06 12:44 PM
Huh? Second?
Posted By: wilkie Re: closed threads - 01/20/06 01:04 PM
As in "I second that motion. All in favor? all opposed? That motion is now carried and entered in the forum minutes." LOL
Posted By: electure Re: closed threads - 01/20/06 02:19 PM
There are various reasons why a thread may be closed.
Probably the most common is when a DIYer finds the site, and asks questions that might get them or someone else hurt.
Another is when members begin "flaming" one another, rather than discussing subjects in a professional and civilized mannner.
A 3rd is when the site is used for advertising a product or service.

Many times this is done as a precautionary measure, and allows the oftentimes good information contained in that thread to remain, rather than allowing it to continue and degrade until it must be deleted completely.

If there was no control of this type, the Forum would become a free-for-all, and you would be seeing full blown fighting, bad DIY info ala "Bob Vila", and Viagra ads before you could blink an eye.

There are other Electrical Forums that allow most any kind of thread or post to continue or remain. They are typically not very successful.
Posted By: kiwisholland Re: closed threads - 01/21/06 12:47 AM
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"There are other Electrical Forums that allow most any kind of thread or post to continue or remain. They are typically not very successful."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, you crack me up man!
Posted By: LK Re: closed threads - 01/21/06 01:08 AM
I asked that the thread be closed, i moved the topic to the wednesday night business chat, so everyone could have the chance to ask any questions on the topic, if you need additional information there is a contact link on the thread.

Thank you,

Les
Posted By: mahlere Re: closed threads - 01/21/06 01:14 AM
sorry wilkie, didn't understand the "likey" at that early hour of the morning.
Posted By: renosteinke Re: closed threads - 01/21/06 03:02 AM
I think that sometimes it is best to close a thread.

Besides the reasons mentioned above, sometimes a thread goes off on so many tangents that it begins to bear little resemblence to the original topic. This makes it hard to locate, or follow, the discussion.

Another situation might be where the same few views are repeated "ad nauseum." Things would then get retty tedious, fast!

I will say that the main reason I like this site is the gererally upbeat tone, and the mutual respect the members show each others. This has remained so, only because the various powers have exercised their options on the rare occasions it's been necessary. Without that guiding hand, things would quickly degrade.

The various moderators will also contact a poster directly, should thing start getting questionable. I have myself been asked to clarify, moderate, or edit some of my posts- and, in fairness, the advice was appropriate!

(After all, even I have a rough day every now and then!)
Posted By: Trumpy Re: closed threads - 01/22/06 10:04 AM
Mr wilkie,
I have to agree with the other Moderators comments.
Having read your first two posts in this thread, it makes it rather sound like you don't like the manner in which us Moderators work.
I'm sorry I can't help you there, but that is why we have Moderators.
An out of control Forum here would help no-one.
I would personally back another Moderator doing thier "job" where it is warranted, to the hilt.
It's not an easy job to do, discretion plays a HUGE part.
Please bear with us, we don't like deleting things, so please don't give us cause to have to.
As simple as that. [Linked Image]
Posted By: iwire Re: closed threads - 01/22/06 03:00 PM
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The various moderators will also contact a poster directly, should thing start getting questionable. I have myself been asked to clarify, moderate, or edit some of my posts- and, in fairness, the advice was appropriate!

I too have been asked to edit my own posts on this and other forums, and I always have willingly complied.

These forums do not charge money and have rules we agree to when we join. That said IMO it goes without saying the people footing the bill for these forums have full rights to run them as they see fit.

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(After all, even I have a rough day every now and then!)

It happens to all of us. [Linked Image]

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It's not an easy job to do, discretion plays a HUGE part.
Please bear with us, we don't like deleting things, so please don't give us cause to have to.

I agree entirely.

I can't tell you how much it bothers me to delete or edit someone else's post. If editing needs to be done I ask the person to do it themselves as they can edit but keep the intent the same.

I am strongly against censorship, but there are rules here and they have served this forum well as long as I have been a member.

No profanity

No Flaming (That's fighting)

No talk about subjects that can not be resolved, Politics, Religion, Unions, Immigration etc.

wilkie I certainly hope you stick around but I doubt we are going to change what has worked well for quite a few years to suit you.

Bob (Happy Member, Reluctant Moderator)
Posted By: macmikeman Re: closed threads - 01/22/06 07:00 PM
Gee, I think the moderators here are pretty cool. They certainly have put up with enough of my nonsense posts without deleting them over the years.
Posted By: Electricmanscott Re: closed threads - 01/22/06 07:04 PM
Just another case of being beaten down by the man. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Posted By: dougwells Re: closed threads - 01/22/06 07:59 PM
awwwwwwww thanks guys [Linked Image]
Posted By: renosteinke Re: closed threads - 01/22/06 09:45 PM
Lest anyone think poorly of the moderators...a visit to one of our evening chats will let you get to know some of them a little better. I've never, ever, had any of them get on an ego trip, saying something as "I'm a mod and you're not, so I must be right!" Nor have I heard any express any joy in exercising the options that they have.
Posted By: kiwisholland Re: closed threads - 01/23/06 02:36 AM
Is this a record for most moderators having to justify themsleves in one post ever?

I am calling the Guinness people Monday morning!

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Posted By: electure Re: closed threads - 01/23/06 03:02 AM
No, just figure that the more the members know about how it works, the more smoothly things will run [Linked Image]
Posted By: iwire Re: closed threads - 01/23/06 01:40 PM
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Is this a record for most moderators having to justify themsleves in one post ever?

Your point is?

Would you like your membership fee returned?

Bob
Posted By: wilkie Re: closed threads - 01/23/06 04:41 PM
Not saying I'm going anywhere, and I'm sure their wouldn't be a loss here if I took my hack rear-end home and pouted. I was just stating that I thought the thread was headed somewhere. What I think isn't a concern, I KNOW THAT. Jeeze, it was a light hearted statement. My only concern is building a better, more profitable electrical business and have a little fun at the same time. Sorry for the attempt at jest. Deepest apologies to all.
Posted By: Alan Belson Re: closed threads - 01/23/06 06:58 PM
wilkie, believe me, as a bystander,I've seen threads 'going wrong' many times and thought, blinkin' 'eck! - this is getting hot, then over the top it goes and folks get upset, jump out of their prams, insult others or the moderators, leave the Forum in anger, and probably regret it later when it's too late. Mods. experience over the years means they often step in a little early perhaps, but that's ok- very many times the thread is about exhausted anyway. We all know the rules; no expletives (or **** words), advertising, racism, political or religious dissent, nor insults. Easy!
Oh, and wilkie, please don't take your hack rear-end home and pout. Too late, I'm already visualising it! Arrggghhh!

Alan

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