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Posted By: aldav53 Spa - GFI - 11/06/03 03:38 PM
If a 50a 240v outdoor spa has the GFI on the plug, can I run the circuit not using a GFI breaker?
Posted By: Edward Re: Spa - GFI - 11/06/03 05:07 PM
I believe if you feed a gfci device with another gfci device it will nuisance trip.
The gfci plug or disconnect should suffice which will be fed by a 50 amp dp breaker.

Edward
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: Spa - GFI - 11/06/03 06:13 PM
Edward,

If the Tub has a Cord and Plug the receptacle itself must be GFCI protected. It makes no difference if there is a GFI on the plug or not.

See:

680.42(A)(2) for outdoor locations.
680.43(A)(3) for indoor locations.

Bill
Posted By: Brendan Foley Re: Spa - GFI - 11/06/03 08:12 PM
I am not aware of a 50 Amp, 240 volt GFCI Plug - The spa should be protected by a circuit breaker - also, having a GFCI breaker feed a GFCI receptacle will not cause tripping of either device. Only ground currents will trip them.
Posted By: Wirenuttt Re: Spa - GFI - 11/07/03 12:00 AM
I perfer the spa disco. 50 or 60 amp models mostly. 240 volt. self contained 3R enclosure. comes with a dead front GFI which is attached to the coil of a contactor. Feed it from a regular circuit breaker.
Posted By: aldav53 Re: Spa - GFI - 11/08/03 07:48 AM
This spa does have a built in GFI in the control box. I suppose I wouldn't need a GFI breaker then? And since the panel is within sight, I wouldn't need a disconnect at the spa either.
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: Spa - GFI - 11/08/03 03:26 PM
Al,

You said it has a plug. If there is an outlet for this Tub the outlet itself has to be GFCI protected, it doesn't matter what is in the Tub or on the plug.

See:

680.42(A)(2) for outdoor locations.
680.43(A)(3) for indoor locations.

Bill
Posted By: aldav53 Re: Spa - GFI - 11/08/03 03:48 PM
Bill, no it doesn't have the plug, I wired it direct, but there is a GFI built into the spa control panel. Think I will put a GFI breaker in too. That will protect the line going out to it.
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