I'm just frustrated by this type of penny pinching fraud.
We will have to remain in disagreement that what you describe is 'fraud'
In most cases if the prints had already determined the service size the conductor sizes would also be on the prints.
If the service size was left for the EC to calculate and design than the customer has no expectation of anything other than a NEC compliant installation.
Another important point is this.
IF a service qualifies for and the conductors are sized using Table 310.15(B)(6) than it is 'that size' service.
A homes 200 amp service using 2/0 CU based on Table 310.15(B)(6) is in fact a '200 amp service' and can be loaded to that level.
This is different than when we apply 240.4(B) where we can round up but we can not load past the 310.16 ampacity.
A very common commercial installation will use 6 service disconnects that total far higher than the actual service conductor ampacity.
Here is another common example. This is a service a buddy of mine did.
Notice the size of the riser, it has a capacity of about 200 amps. If you add up the six main breakers inside you would get 600 amps.
Is this 'fraud'?
Should he have run a 600 amp riser for no particular reason and charge the customer a lot more money?
Bob
[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 12-26-2006).]