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Posted By: aldav53 GFI - water heaters - 08/18/05 04:04 PM
As far as I know, a GFI ckt is not required for any type of water heater under a sink, correct?
Posted By: Roger Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/18/05 05:09 PM
If we are talking residential you are correct.

Roger

[This message has been edited by Roger (edited 08-18-2005).]
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/18/05 05:15 PM
Wait a minute...Under the 2002 I agree with Roger 100%. Under the 2005, however, it would be required, unless the sink is located in a kitchen, as per 210.8(A)(8).
Posted By: Roger Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/18/05 05:34 PM
Ryan, did you mean 210.8(A)(7) of 2005?
And yes, I was using 2002 in my reply [Linked Image]

Roger
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/18/05 09:29 PM
Sorry roger, thats what I get for not looking up my references! [Linked Image]
Posted By: caselec Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/19/05 03:14 AM
Ryan, why would GFCI protection be required? 210.8 only applies to 15 and 20 amp 125 volt receptacles.

Curt
Posted By: Roger Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/19/05 10:02 AM
Hello Curt, I was assuming a cord and plug connected unit and think Ryan was as well.

Roger
Posted By: aldav53 Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/19/05 03:27 PM
This is at our church a commercial building. Its a 30 amp 120 volt circuit.
Posted By: Ryan_J Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/19/05 05:17 PM
Not required for a 30 amp circuit.
Posted By: renosteinke Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/20/05 12:19 AM
At last! I found it!

Last 12/28/04, I posted a pic of this in the "Photos for Discussion" forum. The last comment was on 1/10/05.

Look for thread titled "GFCI- needed here?"
Posted By: Roger Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/20/05 12:40 AM
John in your thread the bathroom has already eliminated the question if we are talking about 15 and 20 amp 125 volt receptacles. 210.8(A)(1) and 210.8(B)(1) [Linked Image]

Roger
Posted By: ShockMe77 Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/20/05 01:27 AM
The 2005 code requirement for GFI's in kitchens (article 210.8 (B) other than dwelling units), is ridiculous. No exceptions? GFI protection for every outlet?
Posted By: Roger Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/20/05 01:42 AM
ShockMe77, in reality, this is not changed from the 02 cycle. The 05 added some clarity / definition to commercial kitchens.

Roger
Posted By: aldav53 Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/20/05 05:56 PM
ShockMe77,
This is not an outlet, it is direct wired into an instant heat water heater.
Posted By: caselec Re: GFI - water heaters - 08/21/05 12:59 AM
Hey Roger, I had the feeling your guys were thinking this heater was connected to a receptacle but thought I might be missing something. I hope you are having a good weekend.

Curt
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