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Posted By: electure An Old Plug Strip - 03/01/06 12:49 PM
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My name is Ben Wiersum, I am an 18 year old sound technician in Naperville, IL. I have been reading this site for several months, and I am registering so that I can post replies. I have worked as a sound technician for quite some time now, and it has definitely shed an interesting light on a whole new world of hack work. Many people think that just because they can hook up speakers they can attack an entire 200 amp panel.
Attached is a picture of an extension cord / power strip contraption that is presently listed for sale on eBay. It seemed quite old and rather interesting, probably not a commercially manufactured product. I just thought it might make for an interesting discussion in the "electrical nostalgia" section.



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Posted By: Hemingray Re: An Old Plug Strip - 03/01/06 04:34 PM
nice! looks like the 6th outlet is missing it's top though.
Posted By: pauluk Re: An Old Plug Strip - 03/02/06 12:42 PM
Hi Ben,

That's an interesting find. Worthy of note are the combination parallel/tandem receptacle slots and the double-pole fusing.
Posted By: mamills Re: An Old Plug Strip - 03/02/06 02:58 PM
Hi Ben. Thanks for sending the pic. This is an interesting piece of equipment/history. Back in the days when this was built (commercial products assembled by a DIY'er) it would probably be one of the SAFER items around, considering some of the hookups I've seen in various halls and theaters. Nowadays, of course, it is more of historical interest - although I guess you could use it as some kind of weird pyrotechnic device [Linked Image].

Lest we forget what happened in Rhode Island... [Linked Image]

Mike (mamills)
Posted By: napervillesoundtech Re: An Old Plug Strip - 03/02/06 03:07 PM
Hey, at least it's fused, even if both the hot & neutral are fused. It was listed with a starting bid of $39.00 with $12.00 for shipping. If it was cheaper, I would have purchased it just for novelty (shock) value. [Linked Image]
Posted By: yaktx Re: An Old Plug Strip - 03/03/06 04:52 AM
I find it fascinating that it has 6 receptacles, exactly the same number as modern power strips. Home- or shop-built, but par for the course in an era when electricians frequently built panelboards on site. Ditto the exposed live parts, no big deal back then. Safety was equated with common sense; no one thought much of those times when you are busy with something and take two steps backward without looking.

Of course fused neutrals were not prohibited back then; they were required!

I wonder what kind of cord cap this had?
Posted By: Dawg Re: An Old Plug Strip - 10/28/06 03:54 PM
Pauluk I agree I'd also like to know what was the deal with the vertical and horizontal slots....was that sup[posed to be a combination 15/20 amp 125 volt circuit? Or a combination 125/250 volt circuit???
Posted By: Hemingray Re: An Old Plug Strip - 10/28/06 11:54 PM
Neither.

Back in the days, some appliances used tandem blade plugs, while others used the modern parallel blades. These outlets were made to accept both types of plug. Some people have actually rigged these to a 240v line though.
Posted By: Dawg Re: An Old Plug Strip - 10/29/06 02:03 AM
Thanx...

I had a guy tell me they used tandem blade plugs in those days for 240 volt applications....

So in reality they hadn't yet dopted a standard 120 v. plug in the americas? They had the standard 1-15 and the 2-15?
Posted By: Texas_Ranger Re: An Old Plug Strip - 10/29/06 12:51 PM
That's the difference between US and Europe. In Austria even the oldest stuff I've seen (around 1900) always had covered terminals!
A ca. 1890 surface mount light switch with a brass cover even has some kind of isolating sleeve inside the cover.
Posted By: classicsat Re: An Old Plug Strip - 10/30/06 02:33 AM
I may have said this before, but my understanding is that the edison plug was standard to the 1920s, then Christmas Lighting Outfit manufacturers invented the paralell blade plug to make it easier to piggyback or daisychain, without having to include a "complicated" edison socket on each set.

If that is true, I have no idea how it evolved to the standard for all cord connected appliances.
Posted By: Luc Re: An Old Plug Strip - 11/25/09 12:26 AM
Anyone know if devices are made to "defuse" the noodle? friend's place has an OLD fusebox...
Posted By: renosteinke Re: An Old Plug Strip - 11/25/09 12:35 AM
I'm not about to advise that!

If the place is old enough to have fuses on both wires, it's old enough that there was no standard as to where the neutral went. You're likely to have hot cases and switched neutrals all over the place.

Time for a complete evaluation, and probable rewire.
Posted By: Trumpy Re: An Old Plug Strip - 11/26/09 08:32 AM
Originally Posted by renosteinke


If the place is old enough to have fuses on both wires, it's old enough that there was no standard as to where the neutral went. You're likely to have hot cases and switched neutrals all over the place.

Time for a complete evaluation, and probable rewire.


It's also more than likely that nothing in that place is grounded either. whistle
Posted By: wa2ise Re: An Old Plug Strip - 11/26/09 07:21 PM
Originally Posted by Luc
Anyone know if devices are made to "defuse" the noodle? friend's place has an OLD fusebox...


Closest thing I can think of is using 30 amp fuses on the neutral. However, there is a risk that one or more of those 30 amp fuses might get removed by mistake, and get placed in a hot feed.
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