OSHA wants every construction worker to be trained, the question is why? What i think about this is OSHA actually want to ensure the safety of construction workers by education them about the various dangerous issues they may face at construction side. I strongly agree with that, what do you guys think about it?

Just got thru with the OSHA 10 class. A very informative class, lots of guidelines as to what OSHA expects as far as inspections and record keeping. For my money, it cant hurt to go through the class, who knows you might actually learn something!

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i guess i have a different take on it all as i've now brought a son into the trades

i don't awlays agree with them, and i've often worked in blatant disregard of them, but i'd like him to know the rules so he can make informed decisions instead of other people making them for him

~S~

Whether you want the 10 hour training or not, cost and convenience is a consideration. Just came accross these guys who offer OSHA Training online:
OSHA Safety Training - Classroom and Online

They are a division of All Hazards Training Center of University of Findlay

OK, that's $680 for four (4) days online. It would be interesting to know how many guys are ready for that, or already took the course.

Those online courses sound convenient, but expensive and at 4-days, they seem overly long and drawn out. I could see it costing that much if maybe it was for the OSHA 30 or HAZWOPER courses.
I took the OSHA 10 course in a one day seminar about 4-years ago for about $150.00 and that included coffee and donuts for the morning break.
It does seem like OSHA 10 certification is now becoming the minimum required for subcontractors and employees just to set foot on some construction jobsites.

I don't see anything in the course materials that isn't already covered, numerous times, in the course of ordinary job training.

What I DO see is a pin-headed focus on "documenting" the training, and a wonderful income generator for all those seminar commandos.

Good heavens, I doubt is anyone on this planet can 'document' their 'sex education,' but there seems to be no shortage of babies. All a 'documentation' requirement does is increase costs and give inspectors easy 'paperwork violations.'

It simply amazes me that every desk jockey is an 'expert' on ladder use, but when it comes to something that can REALLY hurt you - like power pulling equipment- all they can do is mouth platitudes about "following instructions.'

It's worse than that, though. By letting 'safety' morph like a cancer to the point where even the sight of a pretty lady will mandate the immediate doning of a full-body condom, they've undermined any real respect for the subject. "Safety" becomes just another BS waste of time, an occasion for parroting whatever gibberish is popular this week, and a blank check/ excuse for the worst of management.

Could we please be a little more on topic, I am basically reading giggerish in your total post.

to safety, or not to safety would be Reno's observation

i.e.- do we need it?

well, let's start with the b*tch i've had now for 1/4 century


what good are laws that are not enforced?

anyone?


~S~

Hearing words on the street that they are around, looking kinda hard. Good source said they wrote $37.5k in fines since last Monday. They must be hungry

Sorry, Doug, if I lost you.

My 'gibberish' was my way of saying that I've had the OSHA 30-hour course .... and it was a complete waste of time. Materials were either already well-known, or irrellevant.

I was also looking at this new requirement in the context of other documentation requirements. For example, a forklift driver is required to be 'licensed' by each employer, on each individual piece of equipment. This is akin to BC requiring you to have a separate licence for each of your cars (or trucks)- and having to re-test every time you buy a new one.

Finally, I was looking at the various OSHA actions, where there are reams of citations for things like not having the proper records available. A typical OSHA inspection spends far more time in the office, looking at files, than looking at the workplace.